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• Start date 10 Jul 2012
• 10 Jul 2012

after looking through thousands of boats i have come across this . its not exactly what i was looking for but seems to be extreemly good value .(maybe too good to be true ). trouble is i cant find any info on this boat , not even a manufacturer website ?. can anyone please give me any information on aicon specially the 52 . i have found the boat on several websites and it appears to be an ex show boat 30 or 110 hours only depending on which broker site you visit ,also it has been kept in dry storage all this time . http://www.ybw-boatsforsale.com/Boats/150419-AICON-AICON+52 thanks david  

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So the Aicon 52 is the smallest boat ever built by Aicon. It became the 54 in 2005-6 stern aft deck, cockpit extension. It is a Fulvio De Simoni design, and has sold much less to the 56, delivered in about 100 unit. The 56 was Aicon first model. The boats are very similar but the 56 has the much wanted full beam midships owners cabin. That price is a steal. I know some Aicon owners, and friends of owners and most seem to be happy with the boats. Company was in troubled financial waters in last 2 years, and was in near bankruptcy for the last year. EYB is the Beneteau Group brokerage section so is quite reputable, and in that price you have to add commision of 5%. Altough this broker is in France and boat is in Sicily, and the spec sheet is very much empty. I hope it is not the usual 200k EUROS + leasing fees of another 200k EUROS. So check your homework well.  

PowerYachtBlog said: So the Aicon 52 is the smallest boat ever built by Aicon. It became the 54 in 2005-6 stern aft deck, cockpit extension. It is a Fulvio De Simoni design, and has sold much less to the 56, delivered in about 100 unit. The 56 was Aicon first model. The boats are very similar but the 56 has the much wanted full beam midships owners cabin. That price is a steal. I know some Aicon owners, and friends of owners and most seem to be happy with the boats. Company was in troubled financial waters in last 2 years, and was in near bankruptcy for the last year. EYB is the Beneteau Group brokerage section so is quite reputable, and in that price you have to add commision of 5%. Altough this broker is in France and boat is in Sicily, and the spec sheet is very much empty. I hope it is not the usual 200k EUROS + leasing fees of another 200k EUROS. So check your homework well. Click to expand...

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Be careful with Italian ex leasing boats. I was talking to the UK Ferretti dealer a few weeks ago and he was saying that there are lot of finance repo boats coming onto the market in Italy and the finance cos have very little idea what they are selling and many don't have title documents confirming the chain of ownership. I have tried the old Aicon Group website address and it is down  

Deleted User said: Be careful with Italian ex leasing boats. I was talking to the UK Ferretti dealer a few weeks ago and he was saying that there are lot of finance repo boats coming onto the market in Italy and the finance cos have very little idea what they are selling and many don't have title documents confirming the chain of ownership. I have tried the old Aicon Group website address and it is down Click to expand...

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kcrane said: Just a thought having considered the same issues as you a few years ago. If you've got the cash then the capital cost of having a boat is the amount it depreciates while in your ownership. Right now interests rates are very low, so you can't earn much risk-free, so looking on the bright side, it isn't that much worse having capital tied up in GRP than in a bank. The running costs of one 50ft boat versus another won't be much different unless you are unlucky and need to replace or fix something significant. All that as background to say that buying the Aicon at £300k may not actually work out any cheaper than a Sq58 at £400k. The Sq58 is a well known boat and as Deleted User has said, the older ones have dropped to the price they'll pretty much flatline at. You'll lose something in depreciation, but it won't be criminal. That Aicon on the other hand is an unknown quantity, even in the Med. You could lose out, or at least have a painful time trying to pass it on (as the current owners have already found, it has hung around for 8 years). I'm suggesting that laying out more cash now (if you don't need to borrow it) isn't a bad option cos over say 3 years of ownership it might actually cost you less and you'd have the boat you really want [your forum nom de guerre suggests you really want the Fairline ] Click to expand...

When you actually see the Aicon you will see that it is a much less nice boat than the others. Flybridge is a joke compared with the Sq58. Aicon boats are reasonbly well built and have decent equipment but many models are not designed well. The 56 was a hit but many other models have been failures and sold in small numbers, and have clearly evident bad design features. There's a reason why the 52s are cheap and plentifully available and in this category I'd agree KCrane's advice and get a bargain Sq58 that has flat-lined at £380k or so (and try to get a 2004 or later model due to the big improvements that year)  

jfm said: When you actually see the Aicon you will see that it is a much less nice boat than the others. Flybridge is a joke compared with the Sq58. Aicon boats are reasonbly well built and have decent equipment but many models are not designed well. The 56 was a hit but many other models have been failures and sold in small numbers, and have clearly evident bad design features. There's a reason why the 52s are cheap and plentifully available and in this category I'd agree KCrane's advice and get a bargain Sq58 that has flat-lined at £380k or so (and try to get a 2004 or later model due to the big improvements that year) Click to expand...

jfm said: When you actually see the Aicon you will see that it is a much less nice boat than the others. Flybridge is a joke compared with the Sq58. Click to expand...

Deleted User said: Agreed. I was going to write words to the effect that you don't see many, even in the Med but quite by chance, we're berthed in a marina near Trogir in Croatia tonight and we're moored close to an Aicon 52. Yup, it looks like its been hit with the ugly stick a few times but that's just my opinion. Certainly the flybridge is small. Reminds me of a Birchwood for some reason. An early Sq58 would be a much better buy IMHO and it won't lose much money either as it's becoming a sort of classic Fairline Click to expand...

squadron said: if you get a chance to talk to the owner, his comments would be well recived here mike ,good or bad . that is if you can bear to look at it haha thanks david Click to expand...

Actually the only reason the 52 never sold well was because it was only 50k EUROS cheaper to a 56. The Aicon 52 was the least succesful model from the builder. The revamped 54 did much well to it... Comparing a Squadron 58 to an Aicon 52 is like Apples and Oranges. The Aicon 52 competes with an Azimut 50, Fairline 50 Phantom, Princess 50 Mk.1 or 2 etc. Apart this model Aicon was pretty succesful. The 64 sold over 50 units, The 72 Open over 10 units, the flagship 85 same, and the 56 over 100. So Aicon sold pretty well in the good years.... A used Aicon 52 will have a market in central med; France, Italy, Croatia, Greece. The 56 thanks to its full beam owners cabin at the time has market every where. Infact IMO the problem with the 52 is that it will always be in its shadow....  

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Sounds like a good deal but beware as there are quite a few reposession Aicons on the market being sold through Croatian and Italian banks which I understand are limited on paperwork. I have not had any first hand experience with Aicon but have discussed them with colleagues in the trade and personally I would choose to avoid unless I was very confident in the general reputation of the marque, but as with anything it comes down to personal preference and as the saying goes 'you pay your money and you take your choice'. I have had some potential clients use these boats as a negotiation tool against well known and trusted brands such as Azimut and Sunseeker to try and justify the low offers! It's only my opinion but this isn't the best way of trying to justify an offer on brands with heritage and a proven track record. I would agree with the other comments in the thread about the squadron 58, it's a great boat and has a great reputation with stable residuals. Regardless of any of the above, make sure that whatever you buy has the correct title paperwork and that the tax status is as advertised and is legitimate as this is crucial with any boat purchase. If you use a good broker they should be able to give you confidence and there are Proffesional association websites that can help with guidance. Best of luck whatever you do and I hope you have an enjoyable season aboard your new vessel.  

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PowerYachtBlog said: Actually the only reason the 52 never sold well was because it was only 50k EUROS cheaper to a 56. The Aicon 52 was the least succesful model from the builder. The revamped 54 did much well to it... Comparing a Squadron 58 to an Aicon 52 is like Apples and Oranges. The Aicon 52 competes with an Azimut 50, Fairline 50 Phantom, Princess 50 Mk.1 or 2 etc. Apart this model Aicon was pretty succesful. The 64 sold over 50 units, The 72 Open over 10 units, the flagship 85 same, and the 56 over 100. So Aicon sold pretty well in the good years.... A used Aicon 52 will have a market in central med; France, Italy, Croatia, Greece. The 56 thanks to its full beam owners cabin at the time has market every where. Infact IMO the problem with the 52 is that it will always be in its shadow.... Click to expand...

christianmoore said: Sounds like a good deal but beware as there are quite a few reposession Aicons on the market being sold through Croatian and Italian banks which I understand are limited on paperwork. I have not had any first hand experience with Aicon but have discussed them with colleagues in the trade and personally I would choose to avoid unless I was very confident in the general reputation of the marque, but as with anything it comes down to personal preference and as the saying goes 'you pay your money and you take your choice'. I have had some potential clients use these boats as a negotiation tool against well known and trusted brands such as Azimut and Sunseeker to try and justify the low offers! It's only my opinion but this isn't the best way of trying to justify an offer on brands with heritage and a proven track record. I would agree with the other comments in the thread about the squadron 58, it's a great boat and has a great reputation with stable residuals. Regardless of any of the above, make sure that whatever you buy has the correct title paperwork and that the tax status is as advertised and is legitimate as this is crucial with any boat purchase. If you use a good broker they should be able to give you confidence and there are Proffesional association websites that can help with guidance. Best of luck whatever you do and I hope you have an enjoyable season aboard your new vessel. Click to expand...

Deleted User said: OK will do if there's anybody on board Click to expand...

Hi David All sounds good and should be OK but I would still have the paperwork checked properly to make sure all is in order, maybe even look at using a good marine lawyer to make sure of it, could be the best few quid you spend!!! I hope you don't mind me saying as I am not trying to put you off, but paperwork is one of the biggest problems for brokers when selling a used boat. If you want to have a chat about it I am happy to give some advice. Basics are: builders certificate in name of dealer, bill of sale from dealer to first owner ( should be you in this case), invoice showing tax paid (if applicable), CE certification, RCD compliance, transcript of registry if boat registered to make sure no outstanding debts or mortgages, confirmation that the boat is free of encumbrances! Proof of service history ( even though boat is effectively new, it should still have been maintained properly as it was built a few years ago). Good luck with whatever you do.  

Squadron an interesting thread please keep posting and tell which way you end up going but best of luck whichever  

squadron said: hi william , i am not trying to compare it to a sq58, even as a newbie i already know there is a vast gulf in percevied quaility between the two marques . it just got me thinking if i could really buy a 53ft 2004 boat with only 28 hours on it ,in as new condition for 150k then i could learn the ropes with it without feeling too worried about every scrape and bang on the gel coat . come resale time... in a couple of years i could probably sell or px it for reasonable money ..ie..very cheap compared to other things . the aicon 56s that i can see which are more comparable in size to the sq58 are roughly the same price as a sq58, so i dont know if the aicon brand is really seen as a budget brand in some parts of the world . thanks david Click to expand...

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With the success mainstream Italian yacht builders have found on our shores, I suppose it was only a matter of time before a young Italian upstart would shake things up a bit.

For the past 15 years, Aicon has been building interiors for other Italian yacht builders and, in the process, become familiar with the demands of the American market. The company began building boats just 21/2 years ago, and recently established a beachhead in the United States with Aicon USA. Its first offering, a 56-footer, is targeted at yachtsmen moving up from express cruisers who favor style and performance but want the added interior amenities a motoryacht design allows.

All models shipped to the United States will be fitted with 800 hp Caterpillar 3406Es. During our sea trial, I recorded a maximum speed of 27.6 knots at 2200 rpm. This is 100 turns short of what Cat recommends. According to Aicon, sea trials of the same boat in Italy yielded the missing turns and a few more knots. This is not an uncommon phenomenon, as the hot South Florida summer robs horsepower.

Reducing the pitch or moderating the cup on the wheels will bring back the turns and may add a bit of speed, as well. When the 56 is dialed in, Aicon expects a 31-knot maximum speed with a 27-knot cruise.

With 22.4 degrees of deadrise amidships and 16.8 degrees at the transom, the 56 is well suited for offshore service. While sea conditions were mild during our test, several stout wakes gave me the sense that the 56 will deliver a soft, dry ride. She is responsive to the throttle, accelerates evenly and is predictable in high-speed turns, however, her power steering did not operate properly during our sea trial (the problem turned out to be a spent hydraulic pump).

Sound levels were quite reasonable, although her underwater exhaust musters a throaty grumble at transition speed, as the boat climbs to plane. This is not uncommon, however, Aicon plans to incorporate a muffler in the design.

Sight lines from the flying bridge and the interior helm are excellent, and a bow thruster is provided for wiggling out of tight spots.

Styling and interior design are not taken lightly in Italy, and if your taste in yachts is not encumbered by tradition, you will find the 56 a comfortable fit. Her exterior lines are a familiar refinement of what American yachtsmen seem to favor in the breed. Her rakish superstructure is accented with a low-slung arch. It is thoughtfully fitted with an extension that positions the radar above the captain’s cap. Her slight reverse sheer terminates in a reverse transom that borders an integral swim/tender platform.

Rail gates are fitted on the side decks, and our test boat was equipped for boarding astern (European style) with a hydraulic passerelle that can be retracted or deployed from shore by remote control. Aicon says the passerelle is designed to serve as a tender crane, as well, but this was not demonstrated during our test.

The teak-covered afterdeck has built-in seating, and a sunpad tops the 56’s raised trunk forward. Warping windlasses are fitted aft, and a windlass/wildcat controls a plow-style anchor with 330 feet of chain.

Molded-in stairs on the afterdeck lead to the flying bridge, where curved seating is aft and an island helm and raised sunpad are forward. This is a rather clever arrangement, as positioning the sunpad forward of the helm allows for additional interior headroom in the main cabin forward. As a result, there is less nip and tuck in the belowdecks overhead and sole, creating a more sophisticated, big boat feel.

The flying bridge’s helm bench seating is one with an integral console with a wet bar and space for a barbecue grill. I would ask about increasing the size of the helm seat, as it is a bit of a squeeze for two average-size Americans.

An impressive, polished, stainless-steel framed sliding glass door on the afterdeck leads to the main cabin. Almost all the stainless steel aboard the 56 is fabricated at the yard. Aicon also crafts its own interiors, and the 56’s high-gloss cherry joinery has the detail and luster Italian yacht builders are famous for.

The split-level main cabin has a built-in curved seating area aft and an open galley area opposite a curved dinette forward. A partition can be closed to segregate the chef. With the exception of a dual-voltage refrigerator, all appliances are familiar brands. There is a fair amount of stowage, including drawers designed to accommodate the custom tableware.

A built-in washer/dryer is positioned conveniently in the passageway that leads belowdecks. The master stateroom, with a queen island berth, is amidships. A forward stateroom with a queen island berth has a private head. A second guest stateroom has two single berths. A third head without a shower is accessible from the passageway and is convenient as a day head.

The 56’s construction follows European production yacht practice, with a solid bottom supported by a closely spaced network of transverse and longitudinal fiberglass stiffeners. The hull laminate is composed of alternating plies of woven roving and mat, and end-grain balsa coring is used to stiffen the topsides, superstructure and decks.

The engineroom is accessible from the afterdeck and, unlike some enginerooms on European designs, is quite spacious and thoughtfully laid out. Machinery installations seem neat and tidy, and service points on the main engines and auxiliary systems appear to be within easy reach. Fuel is carried in two stainless-steel wing tanks that gravity feed a day tank on centerline. An 11kW generator with a sound shield is abaft the engines.

A small compartment abaft the machinery space is designated as crew’s quarters on the arrangement plan, however, Aicon USA offers this as an option. Those interested in cruising the Bahamas would be better off using the space for spare parts, a freezer and a watermaker. The lazarette is accessible from the swim platform and is segregated with a watertight bulkhead.

In a relatively short time, Aicon has assembled more than 250 employees and set up three production facilities in Sicily with 276,000 square feet of production space under cover. By year’s end, the company expects to be producing two 56s a month. A 52 and a 64 are scheduled to be introduced in the United States in 2003.

For one of the first boats out of the box from a new builder, our test 56 had a surprisingly few pre-delivery loose ends. This is truly an achievement. It suggests the builder has corralled the right talent and is committed to building a quality boat. Aicon seems a serious competitor, and the 56 is worth a serious look.

Contact: Aicon USA, (954) 786-0211; www.aiconyachts.com .

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Aicon Finishing New 68 Vivere

Aicon Yachts is finishing its all-new 68 Vivere in its factory in Sicily, and it’s scheduled to be launched in June. In announcing the 68, Marc-Udo Broich, the chairman and CEO of the Aicon Group, said it would be the first of three new yachts to be built in the next 12 months.

The new 68, like its predecessor, the Aicon 66 Vivere (“to live”), was designed by the HydroTec team of Sergio Cutolo, which he and his wife, Silvia Humsolt, co-founded north of Genoa in 1995. They have designed a wide variety of luxury yachts since then, everything from displacement pocket explorers to 240-foot superyachts.

Aicon customizes its yachts for each owner, and the 68 is no exception. The layouts are versatile, including three or four guest staterooms and one or two more for crew quarters. They include tailor-made materials and hand-crafted wood finishes.

Aicon says the 68 is “engineered for the discerning owner” and “embodies the pinnacle of luxury and performance.” It employs state-of-the-art construction, using carbon fiber in the topsides and vacuum-infusion for lighter weight and strength.

We don’t have other details on the 68, but the 66 Vivere, launched just two years ago, received a warm reception, including an award for Best Functionality at the World Yacht Trophies ceremony in Cannes. Many reviewers commented on the tiles in the master suite head; they were made from recycled lava from Mount Etna.

The 66 was powered by two 1300-hp MAN V8 diesels and had a top speed of 31 knots. It also had a range of 1,000 nm at displacement speeds. The accommodations included three staterooms for six guests, plus one for two crew.

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