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Cascade Yachts - 27' Cascade "pocket cruiser"
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- Start date Apr 11, 2020
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Hello all! I'm relatively new to the forum and a relatively new sailor/cruiser although I've driven ski boats all my life. It wasn't until later that I fell in love with sailing. It's a life changing experience and having the love of water already apart of me sailing has made me feel that much more connected to the sea. Last August 2019 I bought a 1980 27' Cascade and have spent many days sailing my local waters in the South Puget Sound ever since. Of course I will be sailing as much of the Puget Sound as possible and then this summer venturing up to the San Juan Islands. Eventually I would like to explore Victoria B.C. and the surrounding islands and inlets, then one day sail to Alaska and explore. I would love to share some pics and get any feedback on the boat. I know Cascade Yachts were built in Portland, OR and were the product of lead designer Robert Smith who took hull #1 and won his division in the Swiftsure Race. She handles well although has a rather narrow beam at 8.83ft. She's a Masthead Sloop. Fin w/spade rudder and displacement of 6,400 lbs. Any thoughts, feedback or anyone else with a Cascade would love to hear from you. Cheers!
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Looks good to me. But that doesn’t matter. What counts is how you feel on her. The cabin looks like two max for a meal. I’m curious about how many you can sleep. We spend most of our time on our h27 in the cockpit. But it’s good to be able to retreat to the cabin in cold or foul weather. We’ve sailed twice in the San Juans, and a cozy cabin is a plus there. Good luck on her this summer!
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David in Sandusky said: Looks good to me. But that doesn’t matter. What counts is how you feel on her. The cabin looks like two max for a meal. I’m curious about how many you can sleep. We spend most of our time on our h27 in the cockpit. But it’s good to be able to retreat to the cabin in cold or foul weather. We’ve sailed twice in the San Juans, and a cozy cabin is a plus there. Good luck on her this summer! Click to expand
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Cascade Yachts were originally built in Portland, Oregon, and were the product of lead designer Robert Smith (former Sparkman’s and Stephens Yachts’ designer) and a team of local sailors. The company roots go back to 1954, and Cascade Yacht Works is still in business, now out of Warrenton, Oregon. They may have been the first to use the term bulletproof literally when describing their builds, for they actually shot their boats with firearms back in the day to prove their strength.
An example of a Cascade 27 boat is Skylark, a 1983 model currently for sale. It is decked out with a slightly wider than standard cabin house and a Universal M2-12, 11-horsepower diesel engine. The owners allegedly took Skylark to Hawaii and back, and a custom trailer makes the Sea of Cortez and inland waters all that more accessible.
If you’re on the market for a reliable sailboat that won’t break the bank, the Cascade 27 is a statement of Cascadian pride. Skylark is currently for sale with the Port Townsend Boat Company and listed at $16,500.
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Norris Comer is an award-winning writer and the former Managing Editor of Northwest Yachting magazine. He was raised in Portland, Oregon and got his BS in Marine Science at Eckerd College in St. Petersburg, FL where he lived aboard a 1973 Catalina 27 before moving to Washington and an Albin Vega. He has worked as a commercial fisherman, wandered aimlessly around the world, studied oil spills, and was a contestant on the Norwegian reality TV show "Alt for Norge."
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Review of Cascade 27
Basic specs..
The Cascade 27 is equipped with a fin keel. A boat with a fin keel is more manoeuvrable but has less directional stability than a similar boat with a long keel.
The keel is made of iron. Many people prefer lead keel in favour of iron. The main argument is that lead is much heavier than iron and a lead keel can therefore be made smaller which again result in less wet surface, i.e. less drag. In fact iron is quite heavy, just 30% less heavy than lead, so the advantage of a lead keel is often overstated. As the surface of a fin type keel is just a fraction of the total wet surface, the difference between an iron keel and a lead keel can in reality be ignored for cruising yachts.
The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 1.37 - 1.47 meter (4.49 - 4.79 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
Sailing characteristics
This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.
What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?
The capsize screening value for Cascade 27 is 1.90, indicating that this boat could - if evaluated by this formula alone - be accepted to participate in ocean races.
What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?
The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 6.2 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Cascade 27 is about 118 kg/cm, alternatively 661 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 118 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 661 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
Sailing statistics
This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.
What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?
What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?
What is a Ballast Ratio?
What is Displacement Length Ratio?
What is SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio)?
Maintenance
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| Usage | Length | Diameter | ||
| Mainsail halyard | 23.2 m | (76.1 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Jib/genoa halyard | 23.2 m | (76.1 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Spinnaker halyard | 23.2 m | (76.1 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Jib sheet | 8.2 m | (27.0 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Genoa sheet | 8.2 m | (27.0 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Mainsheet | 20.6 m | (67.5 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Spinnaker sheet | 18.1 m | (59.4 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Cunningham | 3.3 m | (10.8 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Kickingstrap | 6.6 m | (21.5 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Clew-outhaul | 6.6 m | (21.5 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
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1980 Cascade 27
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The Classic 1980 Cascade 27 was originally built in Portland, Oregon and encompasses a piece of Northwest History. Cascade Yachts was founded in 1954 by a group of sailors that were experimenting with fiberglass hull construction.
The 27 foot Cascade has a lot of upgrades that include all new rigging along with a new custom fitted Pineapple Main Sail. You’ll enjoy the large aft cockpit while you take control of the beautiful pilot wheel that includes ample seating for family and friends.
Set up for single-handled sailing, the winches, lines, main sheet and halyards are easily accessed from the cockpit.
The cabin has room to relax with comfortable seating and a small galley and head. The Cascade is the perfect size for daily cruising or those long bucket list adventures.
Rig and Sails
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
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The Cascade 27 is a 27.0ft masthead sloop designed by Robert A. Smith and built in fiberglass by Cascade Yachts/Yacht Constructors, Inc. since 1978.
The Cascade 27 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.
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| Model | Cascade 27 | ||
| Length | 27 ft | ||
| Beam | 8.83 ft | ||
| Draft | 4.50 ft | ||
| Country | United states (North America) | ||
| Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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| Sail area / displ. | 16.20 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 35.55 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 287.49 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 23.47 | ||
| Capsize | 1.91 |
| Hull type | Monohull fin keel with spade rudder | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 21.50 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 4.50 ft | ||
| Displacement | 6400 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 2275 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 6.21 knots |
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| Rigging | Masthead Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 348 sq.ft | ||
| Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
| Sail area fore | 193.20 sq.ft | ||
| Sail area main | 154.53 sq.ft | ||
| I | 34.50 ft | ||
| J | 11.20 ft | ||
| P | 28.75 ft | ||
| E | 10.75 ft |
| Nb engines | 1 | ||
| Total power | 0 HP | ||
| Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
Accommodations
| Water capacity | 0 gals | ||
| Headroom | 0 ft | ||
| Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
| Nb of berths | 0 | ||
| Nb heads | 0 |
Builder data
| Builder | Cascade Yachts/Yacht Constructors, Inc. | ||
| Designer | Robert A. Smith | ||
| First built | 1978 | ||
| Last built | 0 | ?? | |
| Number built | 0 | ?? |
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Re: Just bought my first sailboat! 1980 Cascade 27'. It has been said that an old lady in a bath tub can make the trip from California to Hawaii and never even have to carry a GPS or navigate at all. Every twenty minutes there is a plane flying from the US to Hawaii, so all one must do is follow their path. hard aground with sails set.
I know Cascade Yachts were built in Portland, OR and were the product of lead designer Robert Smith who took hull #1 and won his division in the Swiftsure Race. She handles well although has a rather narrow beam at 8.83ft. She's a Masthead Sloop. Fin w/spade rudder and displacement of 6,400 lbs. Any thoughts, feedback or anyone else with a ...
Bought a 27' Cascade about a month ago and have been out nearly every night. I sail the South Puget Sound in Washington State and was wondering anyone's thoughts and opinions on these Cascades. Personally I fell in love with the boat. Easy for one man to handle and apparently the builders were known for their bulletproof hulls.
It takes into consideration "reported" sail area, displacement and length at waterline. The higher the number the faster speed prediction for the boat. A cat with a number 0.6 is likely to sail 6kts in 10kts wind, a cat with a number of 0.7 is likely to sail at 7kts in 10kts wind. KSP = (Lwl*SA÷D)^0.5*0.5
An example of a Cascade 27 boat is Skylark, a 1983 model currently for sale. It is decked out with a slightly wider than standard cabin house and a Universal M2-12, 11-horsepower diesel engine. The owners allegedly took Skylark to Hawaii and back, and a custom trailer makes the Sea of Cortez and inland waters all that more accessible. ...
Cascade 27 is a 27′ 0″ / 8.2 m monohull sailboat designed by Robert A. Smith and built by Cascade Yachts/Yacht Constructors, Inc. starting in 1978. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the ...
The l/b ratio for Cascade 27 is 3.06. Wide Slim 54% 0 50 100. Compared with other similar sailboats it is slimmer than 54% of all other designs. It seems that the designer has chosen a slightly more speedy hull design.
The Classic 1980 Cascade 27 was originally built in Portland, Oregon and encompasses a piece of Northwest History. Cascade Yachts was founded in 1954 by a group of sailors that were experimenting with fiberglass hull construction. The 27 foot Cascade has a lot of upgrades that include all new rigging along with a new custom fitted Pineapple ...
The Cascade 27 is a 27.0ft masthead sloop designed by Robert A. Smith and built in fiberglass by Cascade Yachts/Yacht Constructors, Inc. since 1978. The Cascade 27 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.
Cascade Yachts was a pioneering U.S.-based builder of fiberglass monohull sloop-rigged sailboats ranging in sizes from 23 to 42 feet (13 m) in length. ... Cascade 23 1977; Cascade 24 1977; Cascade 27 1978; Like many early producers of fiberglass boats, the company's production methods resulted in yachts that were heavier than later builders. ...
Boat Review Forum. SailNet is a forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. ... Date: 2010-06-27, 9:04AM ... Not one spot of softness on my deck after. 40 years. Impress the joneses with a hunter interior, sail the world in a cascade. Save Share. Like. SloopJonB.
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Join Date: Apr 2012. Location: Seattle WA. Posts: 23. Cal 28 vs Cascade 29 vs Catalina 28. Ok, I've done a little research lately on different boats and which ones I think will provide the best boat for coastal cruising with a family of 3. We want to learn to sail with the boat we buy, spend about a year fixing and sailing around the pudget sound.
But by 1960, the 15th boat had been completed and sold. A new model, the CASCADE 29, designed by Robert A. Smith, formerly of Sparkman & Stephens, was introduced in 1961. By 1963, 48 CASCADE 29's and 34 CHINOOK 34's had been completed and sold. With the enterprise so firmly established, Wade Cornell, one of the original founders, resigned ...
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The Ubiquitous Cascade 27,29,36,42. Yacht Construstors Inc., builder of the Cascades is now history, but what a glorious history it was. Back in the late 50s or early 60s several menbers of Rose City Yacht Club, in Portland Or, over a few brews were lamenting the high cost of intery into the world of sail boat raceing.
Cascade preowned sailboats for sale by owner. Cascade used sailboats for sale by owner. Home. Register & Post. View All Sailboats. Search. Avoid Fraud. ... 27' Beneteau First 27SE Seascape edition Oyster Bay, New York Asking $69,000. 42' Colvin Gazelle San Blas Nayarit Mexico Asking $9,500.
E-mail the owner sent me: "Hi Joel, Its a Cascade 29, built in bullet proof glass in a hand layup process in 1964. (It really is bullet proof. The Cascade Yacht Constructors team fired a 45 calibre round into one of their hulls at point blank range back in the day. Nothing happened!)
The Boating Forum - Considering an Ameracat 27 Gen II - Opinions? I want to hear the good and bad. - The Ameracat 27 Generation II is currently at the top of my short list. ... and has a ton of Room for a 27' boat. The bad - She has a slight sneeze at times on plane, if your idling in a head sea she'll slap pretty hard when a wave hits just ...
In most Cascade 29s the keel is flanged just like my Cascade 42. That means that a haul out is necessary to replace the bolts. The bolts are more than likely steel to match the keel but you can take a magnet to them to see. They are not hard to change and if the yard you are in will allow you to grind the glass covering the heads then shouldn't be hard to remove.