3 Ways to Convert Your Winches to Self-Tailing
Self-tailing winches are a great upgrade - but expensive. Luckily, there are a couple of budget ways to create your own self-tailing winches.
How to convert your winches to self-tailing? There are three ways to do it. The simplest and most cost-effective way to convert your winches is by installing 'winchers'. These are simple rubbers that hold the rope for you. You could also use a winch conversion kit like Winchmate. Or you could replace the winches by self-tailing ones.
I prefer the first option. The winchers are easy to install. But make sure you get the right size because otherwise it won't work and the installation can get frustrating. The conversion kit is also a solid way to do it if you have the cash. The last option is A LOT more expensive, and I don't think it's worth the investment.
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Different ways to get self-tailing winches, pros and cons of barton winchers, how to get the right size, how to install, related questions.
What is a Self-Tailing Winch? Winches are used to haul in the lines. A self-tailing winch holds the line in place for you. This way, you don't have to hold the line when you're turning the winch. You also don't need an extra pair of hands for pulling the line. So self-tailing winches are the perfect solution for solo sailors.
A regular self-tailing winch has a feeder arm which 'feeds' the line to the top of the winch. The top drum has a sort of jaw. The line goes into the jaw, which holds the line for you.
There are basically three ways to convert your winches.
- Barton winchers (click to check the price on Amazon ) - this is your best buy and budget option
- Winchmate conversion kit (click to check their website ) - I really like this product, but it's a bit more expensive
- winch replacement (click to check the price on Amazon ) - this isn't really an option for me (too expensive)
Winchers are simple rubber conversion rings. You install them on your current winches, which means you don't have to do an expensive replacement. They're inexpensive. Installation can be a bit of a pain but shouldn't be too difficult. I'll explain more on this option and how to install them later on.
The Winchmate conversion kit can help you to properly convert your winches. This kit includes an entire new top drum, including the feeding arm. Converting your winch this way creates a true self-tailing winch, ensuring you are in control of your lines.
Replacement is the best way to get self-tailing winches, but also the most expensive. I think you didn't come here looking for the obvious, so I'll leave it at that. If you want to have a cheap alternative, read on.
Why I Chose for Barton Marine's Winchers
I like the Barton Marine winchers the most because it's the simplest and most universal way of converting. Their winchers fit most winches. It's the KISS (sweet and simple) method. I always go for the KISS way.
It's the cheapest by far and works well enough for me (I'm not doing any ocean passages any time soon).
However, if you want a lifetime solution, check out Winchmate. Their conversion kits are pretty neat as well. You get the entire top part of the winch, so installation is a piece of cake. I guess this is also a good option. Tech specs are better than rubber winchers:
- has a line lifter/feeder arm
- aluminum line jaws instead of rubber
- installation is (if possible) even easier - 20 - 30 minutes
- you get a true self-tailing winch
The only disadvantage I can think of is that the investment doesn't get you a new winch, which means the Winchmate will only last you as long as your winch.
There are a couple of things to consider here. First, let's take a look at the pros:
- It's cheap - a pair of winchers probably cost under a $100 (for both sides). A pair of new self-tailing winches (A-brand) will cost you about 20-30 times that amount!
- The conversion is pretty easy to do
- They work fine
- They last you long enough - roughly about at least 5-10 years
If you're thinking: how will a rubber disc ever hold up? They hold up just fine. I've even read some accounts of a 12-ton sloop that uses these, and mid-sized yachts with heavy sails. All without any trouble whatsoever.
The biggest disadvantage is that the entire winch must be stacked with line for self-tailing to work. The wincher grips the line with the rubber underside of the wincher. So if the line doesn't reach all the way up to the underside of the wincher, it doesn't work. In practice, this doesn't cause trouble.
Winches don't have a feeder arm which controls the line. So it's a bit less secure, and you have to make sure the rubber jaw grips the line properly. But in my opinion, this isn't a real problem. I don't know of anybody that had a problem with the jaws not holding the line.
I've heard of someone that had a problem with the fit of the wincher - it slipped on the winch. But for most people they fit just fine and don't slip at all - even with larger winches. I suggest dry fitting the rubbers before actually installing them - you can always return them and get a more expensive solution.
The Barton Marine winchers fit standard-sized winches - so most, but not all.
They come in four universal sizes: small, medium, large, and x-large.
To get the right size, check the technical specs of your winch and look for the drum diameter. Then, choose the right wincher size from the table below:
Wincher size | max. Ø drum (mm) | max. Ø rope (mm) |
---|---|---|
small | 64-70 | 8-10 |
medium | 70-80 | 10-14 |
large | 80-90 | 12-14 |
x-large | 90-100 | 12-16 |
This info comes directly from the Barton Marine website.
The larger the drum diameter for that particular size, the tighter it will be. Which is a nuisance for installation, and a good thing for the grip.
For installation, you need a flat-headed screwdriver and a Philips screwdriver.
- Soak the wincher in hot water with washing up soap. This softens them up. You have to be able to stretch them just enough to put them over the top of the winch.
- Undo the top disc of the winch, and remove the screws. Then, take off the entire top drum.
- Slide over the wincher. It can be an incredibly tight fit. Like all rubber parts, you'll probably wonder whether you've ordered the right size. But hey, the tighter it is now, the firmer it will stay in place later.
- Replace the top drum. Then, flip the top rubber edge over the top of the drum by running a screwdriver around the edge (a bit like placing a bicycle tire).
If you are more of a visual person, here's a good video that shows you how it's done. The audio is a bit windy but it gets better later on.
What does a self-tailing winch do? A self-tailing winch holds the line in place by itself. This means you don't need to hold the line while you're turning the winch, or need an extra pair of hands for pulling the line. Because of this, a self-tailing winch allows you to sail short-handed (solo).
What's the top groove on a wincher for? The top groove on a rubber wincher is called the jaw, and it's simply used to cleat the line. You don't need to use it when you're hauling in line. You may also use your original cleats. However, some people find it handy to use this rubber cleat on top of the winch.
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When it comes to sailing, having the right equipment can make all the difference in the world. Among the crucial components of a sailboat, the self-tailing winch stands out as a true workhorse. In this comprehensive guide, we'll delve into the world of self-tailing winches, exploring their meaning, function, and how they can enhance your sailing experience.
Understanding the basics
Let's start with the basics. A self-tailing winch is a mechanical device used on sailboats to handle the lines or ropes (commonly referred to as sheets) that control the sails. Its unique design allows for easier and more efficient sail adjustment.
Here's a simplified explanation of how a winch operates:
- The drum : At the core of a winch is a drum, often cylindrical in shape. This drum is connected to a shaft, which can rotate when powered.
- Cable or rope : A strong and durable cable or rope is wound around the drum. This cable is what you'll attach to the load you want to lift or pull.
- Power source : Winches can be powered by various sources, depending on their application. Common power sources include electric motors, hydraulic systems, or manual cranks.
- Engaging the winch : To start the winching process, you engage the winch by either turning on the motor, activating the hydraulic system, or manually rotating the drum using a handle.
- Winding the cable : As the drum rotates, it winds the cable or rope around itself. This winding action creates tension on the cable.
- Lifting or pulling : The tension on the cable allows the winch to either lift a load vertically or pull it horizontally, depending on how it's anchored.
- Direction control : Most winches have a direction control mechanism that lets you choose whether the cable is wound in or out. This control allows for precise load movement.
- Safety measures : Winches often come with safety features, such as brakes or clutches, to prevent the cable from unwinding unintentionally.
- Load limit : It's crucial to be aware of the winch's load limit, as exceeding it can damage the winch or lead to accidents. Always follow manufacturer guidelines.
- Releasing the cable : To release the cable or rope, you disengage the winch and allow it to unwind the cable from the drum.
Winches are versatile tools used in various industries and recreational activities, from off-roading and sailing to construction and rescue operations. Understanding how they work ensures safe and efficient use in different scenarios.
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- Electric winches are powered by an electric motor, making sail adjustments even more effortless. They are often used on larger sailboats and luxury yachts, where the loads can be significant.
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- Sailboat winches are primarily used to hoist sails. They make it possible for sailors to raise heavy sails, such as the mainsail or jib, quickly and with minimal effort.
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- Once the sails are hoisted, winches are used to trim them properly. Sailors can adjust the tension on the sails' sheets (lines) to achieve the desired sail shape and performance.
3. Adjusting lines
- Sailboats have numerous lines and halyards (ropes) that control various aspects of sail trim and boat handling. Winches assist in adjusting these lines effectively.
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Anyone who has been on the bitter end of the sheet when a big genoa starts to fill—whipping and shaking with terrifying violence—knows how important it is to have a winch to convert that flailing energy to forward propulsion.
Winches are to sailboats what the inclined plane was to the Egyptians.
They make the difficult easy, place the impossible within reach.
The equivalent of a dozen or more men needed to heave on a square rigger’s halyard or brace is represented on a modern sailboat by a small, precision-made, cylindrical machine packed with levers and gears.
The refinement of gearing and the development of smooth-operating self-tailers has promoted modern winches from two-man to one-man workhorses with amazing power.
Their only negative is their proclivity to induce fidgety idlers to rotate them mindlessly, just to hear the pawls ratchet. These idlers usually can be broken of this annoying habit by shouting, “Winchclicker! Winchclicker!! Winchclicker!!!” If that fails, they generally are put ashore (if in harbor) or put to death (if on a long sea voyage).
Let’s take a close look at two common sizes of winches. They’re all expensive, because they are well-made precision equipment. They’re also among the most frequently retrofitted items; it’s worth repeating here that an oft-heard saying aboard a lot of sailboats is that the winches they came with are not big enough.
In the two categories selected, these winches are from six manufacturers—Andersen (Denmark), Antal (Italy), Barton (England), Harken (United States), Lewmar (England) and Setamar (Germany).
Small Winches The first category is very small winches. Those represented in this evaluation are among the smallest made by five of the manufacturers. One maker, Antal, makes excellent small winches in several sizes, but could not supply one for testing.
Small, single-speed winches, either with a handle or simply snubbing winches, are invaluable on small boats, for halyards, jib sheets, spinnaker sheets, reefing gear, vangs, etc., and handy, too, for many tasks aboard larger boats. Small winches do not come with the self-tailing mechanism; most manufacturers (Andersen is the exception) start the self-tailers with #16s, which also happens to be the minimum size for two-speed gearing.
Small winches are said to have a gear ratio of 1:1. That means they are direct drive. The only power advantage is that provided by a winch handle. It’s simple leverage, with two sets of pawls (one pair to restrain the drum; the other pair to permit the handle to ratchet freely). One turn of the crank is one turn on the drum. On a small boat, the single-digit power ratio provided by the handle often is ample for sheets. Non-geared winches take in line rapidly. Such winches often are used for halyards on somewhat larger boats. (The power ratio is the length of the handle divided by the radius of the drum.)
Snubbing winches, which do not accept a handle, turn in one direction only. They need only a single set of ratchet pawls. If enough wraps are applied, snubbing winches give the user time to get a new grip or to simply hold the line lightly while friction between the drum and the line takes the load.
They provide little mechanical advantage, but snubbing winches facilitate a good utilization of intermittent muscle power, They also have good line retrieval speed, which always is a consideration when dealing with winches.
Simple and trouble-free, they are of great value when the line load is no more than one’s weight or pulling strength. A halyard can be sweated up very taut by the “heave and hold” method of pulling hard on the line perpendicular to the mast with one hand while grabbing slack on the winch with the other hand.
With either small, direct-drive winches with handles or simple snubbers, the line retrieval rate is an undiluted derivative of the drum diameter, i.e. one revolution of the winch hauls in a length of line equal to the drum’s diameter multiplied by that popular symbolic 16th letter in the Greek alphabet. As a practical matter, line in equals line out.
Because they are simple devices, these small winches were not tested.
The Roaring 40s The second category is the very popular “Number Forties.” Winches are given numbers that correspond to their lowest and most powerful gear ratio. The power ratio of a geared winch is the length of the handle divided by the radius of the drum, multiplied by the gear ratio.
The big winches in this test are Andersens, Antals, Bartons, Harkens, Lewmars and Setamars. We tried to include the Australian-made Murray bottom-action winches, but could not find a U.S. distributor.
The versatile #40s—or their close equivalents—serve as genoa sheet winches on 30- to 35-foot boats, for spinnaker sheets and mainsheets on boats up to 48′, and for halyards, topping lifts, vangs, etc., on much larger sailboats.
The #40s in this collection are all two-speed. Three-speed winches usually are found on racing boats; they come in bigger sizes and get complicated and expensive.
All but one of these winches are self-tailing. In the beginning, several decades ago, self-tailing winches were troublesome…as is usual with most new things. Now perfected, the self-tailing mechanisms represent the only way to go on either racing or cruising boats.
Because winches are such beautifully made gear and rarely get worn out, marine consignment shops across the country are clogged with standard winches—mostly Barients—that once were highly coveted (as well as highly priced). We know of at least one instance in which dozens of perfectly usable standard winches were sold as scrap metal.
There even are a few early-model self-tailers (from various manufacturers) showing up now in the consignment shops; they’re okay for moderate duty but, generally speaking, are not good buys because the self-tailing mechanisms often are not as refined as those on current models. In plain English, that means they slip under heavier loads. Many also have abrasive drum surfaces that devour line.
The Test The Practical Sailor test, designed to establish efficiency ratings for winches, involves mounting each winch on the workbench.
To measure the force exerted, a 15″ torque wrench was used instead of a standard 10″ handle. (The extra length of the torque wrench required adjustments in the calculations.)
Sta-Set X, a modern, rather slippery line, was used, with some of the early tests repeated using Regatta braid, a fuzzy-finish line. The theory that because of varying friction a slippery line might produce different numbers than a fuzzy line proved specious.
At the other end of the bench, a tripled length of 1/2″ shock cord held by two eye straps provided the resistance. Shackled to the shock cord was a carefully calibrated Dillon dynamometer with a handy red max needle. The Sta-Set was attached to the other shackle on the dynamometer and thence to the winch. Four wraps were used. A minimum of three generally is recommended for all but extreme loads. The exception was the Setamar, which requires just one partial wrap of at least 220°.
Pulls of 10 and 20 pounds were for the trimmer easy work. Additional pulls of 30 pounds produced some sweat. A pull of 40 pounds probably would be regarded by an average person as a maximum effort; 50 pounds would be something only a bench-pressing girlfriend would do without making some kind of noise.
The numerous pulls produced figures whose averages indicate how close each winch came to meeting its power ratio.
An additional step in the testing was to determine how easy it is to free the line from the self-tailer and ease the line, as one would do in easing a sheet or halyard when coming off a beat onto a reach or run. In the case of the Setamar, this becomes complicated and is controlled by the handle.
The Results First of all, the fact that the smooth-skinned Sta-Set performed the same as fuzzy Regatta braid indicates that the gripping action of the self-tailing mechanisms on all of these winches probably is no longer at issue. There were difficulties when self-tailers were first introduced; that was before it was recognized that the diameter of the drum and the base diameter of the self-tailer were very critical dimensions.
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There appeared to be no slippage. However, the sharpness of the teeth on the self-tailers’ disks may well affect wear on the line.
Dealing first with the small winches, there are lots of places on small boats where the ultra-simple Barton snubbing winch (about $50) would be useful. The almost equally simple Lewmar #6 ($92 in anodized aluminum) has an efficient mechanism; it also comes (for more money) in chromed or polished bronze. The #6 Harken ($108 for aluminum) turns on sleeved bearings and is the smoothest operating.
For small-boat sheets or bigger-boat halyards and vangs, the small single-speed Setamar ($364) makes eminently good sense. The ability to ease a sheet or halyard by turning the handle in the opposite direction, before freeing the line entirely, constitutes, in our opinion, a valuable safety factor. As was pointed out in an earlier, more detailed review (in the February 15, 1997 issue), the drum-less Setamar winches are very ingenious and may represent the design approach of the future. However, they currently are too expensive.
The Andersen #6 ($102), all-stainless, beautifully made, with Andersen’s ribbed drum and needle bearings, commands categorization as top-of-the-heap and Best Buy.
Summarizing now about the large winches, it’s tough to choose between Andersen and Lewmar. But first, let’s review the others.
The little Barton G23 is not comparable with the big 40s. It was included not only because it’s Barton’s biggest winch, but also because it may point to the future. An “Ugly Ducking”, if there ever was one (see photo), the Barton is made largely of reinforced plastic (including plastic needle bearing), but with a stainless steel axle, pawls and planetary drive gears made of sintered stainless, and a stainless sleeve on the plastic drum. The winch is a powerhouse and, along with being very light and corrosion free, requires almost no service. An occasional flushing with an optional light hit of WD40 is all it needs. It’s a $400 workhorse.
Although handsome winches and very finely made, both the Harken and Antal suffer from what appear to be unnecessarily complicated innards that produce some fall-off in efficiency. They suffer especially in their geared high speed modes and make the initial retrieval of line quite slow compared with the Setamar, Andersen and even the Lewmar.
In addition, the Practical Sailor tests revealed that the Harken drum surface caused abrasion on the Sta-Set line that was easily detected visually after only three or four “pulls.” The Harken and Antal have the most abrasive drums.
The Setamar? It’s so different, it’s difficult to compare with the more conventional #40s. It has a number of strong points. The principal ones are that it retrieves line fast (as fast as the Andersen) and easing of a loaded line can be controlled very safely with the handle (after shifting the top ring). Other benefits are that no wraps are needed; it is small and very lightweight, and line wear is the lowest of all.
The Setamar negatives: It is not a thing of beauty; is complicated to strip and clean (which it requires often); takes some “getting used to,” and it is far too costly.
Both the best and the Best Buy is the Andersen, but there’s almost no gap between it and the Lewmar.
The Lewmar, a first-rate value, is part of a line that was completely redesigned a few years ago to simplify the gearing, reduce the number of parts and make the winch both stronger and easier to service.
The Lewmar ranks first in efficiency, a hair ahead of the Andersen, and is easy to disassemble. If it had a drum as good as the Andersen, it would be a toss-up.
The Andersen has a direct drive high gear that retrieves line fast, a good low gear mechanism that may come second to the bearing-packed Harken, but its real forte is the polished stainless steel drum. The drum, a masterpiece of metal-working, is ribbed, which produces very little abrasion because it moves the coiled line up the drum much better than an abrasive drum. The drum should last virtually forever.
A peculiarity of the Andersen is that when the line is heavily loaded, easing the line can be a bit jerky as the line skips from rib to rib. Although initially disconcerting, it is not even a minor problem.
There’s nothing second-rate about any of these winches. They all work very, very well and last a long time if properly cared for. The choice may involve gear ratios, serviceability or even cosmetics (we still believe a good part of a sailboat’s appeal is aesthetic).
If it’s something different you want, try Setamar. If you don’t need a large winch, don’t overlook the “new-tech” Bartons. But for efficiency, serviceability, construction and appearance, our top choice is the Andersen.
Contacts- Andersen, Scandvik, Inc., 423 4th Pl. SW, Vero Beach, FL 32961-0068; 561/567-2877. Antal, Euro Marine Trading, Inc., 62 Halsey, Newport, RI 02840; 800/222-7712. Barton, Imtra Corp., 30 Samuel Barnet Blvd., New Bedford, MA 02745; 5008/005-7000, www.imtra.com. Harken, 1252 E. Wisconsin, Pewaukee, WI 53072; 262/691-3320; www.harken.com. Lewmar, New Whitfield St., Guilford, CT 06437; 203/458-6200; www.lewmar.com. Setamar, Setamar USA, Box 840, 17 Burnside St., Bristol, RI 02809; 401/253-2244.
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Sail Boat Winches: The Ultimate Guide
by Emma Sullivan | Aug 5, 2023 | Sailboat Gear and Equipment
Short answer: Sail boat winches
Sail boat winches are mechanical devices used on sailboats to assist in hoisting, trimming, and controlling sails. They consist of a drum or wheel around which the line is wound, providing leverage to adjust sail tension and maneuver the boat efficiently. These essential components contribute to the overall performance and handling of sailboats during sailing activities.
Understanding Sail Boat Winches: A Beginner’s Guide
Title: Understanding Sail Boat Winches: A Beginner’s Guide
Introduction: Sailing is an exhilarating experience that combines the awe of nature with the technical skills required to navigate the open waters. One crucial component of any sailboat is the winch , a mechanical device that allows sailors to control and adjust the sails. In this beginner’s guide, we will delve into the world of sail boat winches, unraveling their mechanisms, types, and importance in sailing.
1. The Functionality Behind Sail Boat Winches: When it comes to manipulating sails efficiently, sail boat winches come to the rescue. These devices work by utilizing a drum-shaped spool around which sailors wrap ropes or cables called sheets. By rotating this drum with a handle or an electric motor, immense force can be exerted onto these sheets for adjusting various aspects of your sails such as tension and angle.
2. Types of Sail Boat Winches: There are two main types of sail boat winches—self-tailing and standard winches. Standard winches require manual tailing or holding onto the sheet while turning the handle to increase or decrease tension. On the other hand, self-tailing winches feature a built-in mechanism that automatically grips and holds onto the line when it is turned in one direction but easily releases when rotated in reverse.
3. Choosing the Right Size for Your Vessel: Selecting an appropriate size for your sail boat winch is crucial as it will directly impact its functionality on deck. Factors such as displacement (weight), type of sailing (cruising or racing), and anticipated wind conditions all dictate what size winch you should choose. It is advisable to consult experienced sailors or experts who can guide you towards making an informed decision.
4. Maintenance Tips for Optimal Performance: Like any mechanical equipment, sail boat winches require regular maintenance to ensure optimal performance throughout their lifespan. Here are some key maintenance tips:
– Regularly lubricate winches to prevent corrosion and ensure smooth operation. – Clean the self-tailing mechanism periodically, as dirt and grime can hinder its functionality. – Check for any signs of wear or damage, such as frayed ropes or loose parts, and replace them immediately to avoid accidents.
5. Common Mistakes to Avoid: In the excitement of sailing, beginners often make some common mistakes when it comes to sail boat winches. Here are a few things to steer clear of:
– Overloading the winch: Be aware of the winch’s load-bearing capacity and avoid pushing it beyond its limits. Overloading can lead to premature wear and tear or even breakage. – Not using proper techniques: Take the time to learn proper winching techniques such as tailing or wrapping the line correctly around the drum. This ensures efficient power transfer, preventing unnecessary strain on both you and the winch.
Conclusion: Understanding sail boat winches paves the way for a smoother sailing experience. By grasping their functionality, choosing wisely according to your vessel’s needs, conducting regular maintenance, and avoiding common mistakes, you will unlock an essential skill that truly elevates your sailing adventures . So go ahead, hoist those sails confidently with your newfound knowledge of sail boat winches!
How to Properly Use Sail Boat Winches: Step-by-Step Instructions
Sailing enthusiasts know that properly using sailboat winches is crucial for smooth sailing and efficient maneuvering. These powerful devices are used to handle sails, control lines, and make adjustments on the boat. However, if used incorrectly, they can lead to strained muscles or even accidents on board. In this step-by-step guide, we will take you through the process of using sailboat winches correctly to ensure a safe and enjoyable sailing experience.
Step 1: Familiarize Yourself with Winch Components Before embarking on your sailing journey, it is essential to understand the different components of a sailboat winch . The three main components are the drum (where the line wraps around), the handle attachment point (often referred to as the “winch socket”), and the winch handle itself.
Step 2: Assess Line Placement Take a moment to assess how various lines are set up on your boat . Identify which lines go through specific winches or blocks connected to them. Understanding this configuration will help you determine which winch you need to use for each task.
Step 3: Choosing the Correct Winch Size Not all winches are created equal. Sailboats usually have multiple winches onboard, each with a different purpose based on load requirements. Choose an appropriately sized winch based on the size and tension of the line you will be handling.
Step 4: Securely Attach Winch Handle Once you have selected the appropriate winch, firmly attach its handle to the winch socket by sliding it in and giving it a slight twist until it locks in place securely. Always ensure that the handle is fully engaged before applying any force.
Step 5: Winding Lines onto Drum To start winding lines onto the drum, hold onto the standing part of the line (the part that doesn’t move) with one hand while turning clockwise with your other hand on top of the drum using gentle pressure. Gradually increase the pressure as needed, but remember to avoid excessive force to prevent damage to the winch or potential injuries.
Step 6: Releasing Tension When you need to release tension from a line, hold onto the standing part with one hand and use your other hand on top of the drum. Turn counterclockwise while maintaining control of the line’s speed. Always keep track of your fingers’ positions and be cautious not to get them caught between the line and drum.
Step 7: Two-Person Operation For larger boats or when handling heavy loads, consider using a two-person operation method for increased safety and efficiency. One person can handle managing the lines while another operates the winch handle, ensuring smoother coordination and reducing strain on both individuals.
Step 8: Regular Maintenance Proper maintenance ensures longevity and optimal functionality. Regularly inspect your winches for signs of wear, lubricate them according to manufacturer guidelines, and replace worn parts promptly. This upkeep will help prevent unexpected failures at critical moments during your sailing adventures .
By following these step-by-step instructions on using sailboat winches properly, you can navigate with confidence, maintain control over your sails, and enhance overall safety while out on the water. Remember always to prioritize caution and respect for these powerful tools – they are there to make sailing more manageable, more enjoyable, and above all else, safe!
Frequently Asked Questions about Sail Boat Winches: Your Answers Revealed
If you are a sailor or boat enthusiast , then chances are you have come across the term “winch” at some point. Sail boat winches are an essential piece of equipment that play a crucial role in controlling and maneuvering your sailboat. However, despite their importance, many people still have questions about how they work and why they are so vital on a sailing vessel . In this blog post, we will dive deep into the frequently asked questions about sail boat winches to provide you with detailed, professional, witty, and clever explanations.
1. What is a sail boat winch?
A sail boat winch is a mechanical device designed to make it easier to hoist sails by multiplying the force exerted by the crew members. It consists of several important components such as the drum (where the rope is wound), gears (to increase power), and handles (to turn the winch). By using leverage and gearing mechanisms, sailors can effortlessly control high loads and adjust sail settings with minimal effort.
2. Why do I need a winch on my sailboat ?
Well, imagine trying to hoist a heavy mainsail or trim a jib without any assistance – it would be quite the workout! Sail boat winches allow sailors to efficiently handle large loads produced by strong winds and heavy sails. They enable precise control over various aspects of sailing like raising or lowering sails, adjusting tension in lines, and controlling angles during maneuvers. Without winches, performing these tasks would require immense physical strength that could quickly exhaust even the most seasoned sailors.
3. How do I choose the right winch for my sailboat ?
The size and type of sailboat winch depend on several factors such as boat size, rigging setup, type of sailing (cruising or racing), and personal preferences. Generally speaking, larger boats with more powerful rigs require larger winches to handle the higher loads. However, it’s important to strike a balance as excessively oversized winches can be unnecessarily heavy and harder to operate efficiently. Consulting with experts or seeking advice from experienced sailors is always recommended when selecting the right winch for your specific sailboat .
4. Can I use an electric winch instead of a manual one?
Absolutely! Electric winches have become increasingly popular among sailors due to their convenience and ease of use. Electric winches are powered by electricity and can significantly reduce physical effort , making them an excellent option for those with limited strength or on larger boats where loads can be substantial. However, it’s worth noting that electric winches come at a higher cost compared to their manual counterparts, require additional wiring and power supply, and may need regular maintenance.
5. How do I properly maintain my sail boat winches?
To ensure your sail boat winches keep performing optimally, regular maintenance is essential. Firstly, keep them clean! Saltwater, sand, and grime can cause corrosion and damage over time. Lubricating the moving parts regularly using appropriate marine-grade lubricants will help prevent wear and tear while ensuring smooth operation. Inspecting the components for any signs of damage or excessive wear is critical to catching potential issues early on before they turn into bigger problems.
Now that we’ve revealed the answers to some frequently asked questions about sail boat winches, you should have a better understanding of their importance in sailing, how to choose the right one for your sailboat, consider electric options if desired, and maintain them properly for optimal performance. So go ahead – hoist those sails with confidence knowing that your trusty winch has got your back!
Choosing the Right Sail Boat Winch for Your Needs: A Comprehensive Guide
Are you an avid sailor looking to upgrade your sail boat winch? Or, perhaps you’re new to sailing and in need of guidance on how to choose the perfect winch for your needs. Look no further! In this comprehensive guide, we’ll walk you through everything you need to know about selecting the right sail boat winch.
Firstly, it’s important to understand that a sail boat winch plays a crucial role in managing and adjusting the tension of your sails. It allows sailors to control their sails effortlessly, ensuring smooth sailing experiences without any manual exertion. But with so many options available on the market, choosing the right sail boat winch can be overwhelming.
To simplify the process, let’s break down some key factors that should influence your decision-making:
1. Size and Power: The size and power of a sail boat winch should correspond to the size and weight of your boat as well as the strength needed for efficient operation. Consider factors such as the size of your sails, wind conditions in your sailing area, and the effort required for control. Opting for a more powerful winch may provide ease of use in challenging conditions or if you have physical limitations.
2. Self-Tailing Functionality: Do you desire convenience while on deck? If so, consider investing in a self-tailing winch. This nifty feature allows for easy one-handed operation by automatically holding onto lines when released or during adjustment. It eliminates the need for additional crew members or using extra equipment like clamps or cleats – definitely handy!
3. Winch Material: When it comes to materials used in making sail boat winches, stainless steel is often a popular choice due to its durability against harsh marine environments. However, aluminum options are lighter and less expensive while still providing decent performance.
4. Gear Ratio: The gear ratio refers to how many turns are required on the handle or drum to turn the line (rope) on the winch. A higher gear ratio will provide greater power, allowing you to control larger sails or handle higher wind loads with less effort. Conversely, a lower gear ratio will require more physical exertion but can be ideal for smaller boats or lighter sail handling.
5. Single Speed vs. Two-Speed Winches: Single speed winches function with a fixed gear ratio while two-speed winches offer the ability to switch between different gear ratios using a secondary speed handle or button. If you frequently sail in variable wind conditions, having the flexibility of switching gears quickly can be advantageous.
6. Maintenance and Ease of Use: Consider how easy it is to maintain and service the winch. Look for models that have accessible parts and clear instructions for lubrication and cleaning. This ensures longevity and keeps your winch performing at its best for years to come.
7. Budget: While cost should never be the sole determinant, it is worth considering your budgetary limitations before making a purchase. Remember that investing in a high-quality sail boat winch may save you money in the long run by providing increased reliability and minimizing maintenance costs.
So there you have it – a comprehensive guide to assist you in choosing the right sail boat winch for your needs! By considering factors such as size and power, self-tailing functionality, materials used, gear ratio options, single speed vs. two-speed choices, maintenance requirements, and budget constraints, you’ll be well-equipped to make an informed decision that enhances your sailing experience .
Fair winds and happy sailing !
Common Mistakes to Avoid When Using Sail Boat Winches
Sailing enthusiasts and boat owners alike can attest to the excitement and joy that comes with setting sail, harnessing the power of the wind, and gliding across the open waters. And when it comes to maneuvering your sailboat efficiently, winches are an essential tool. These mechanical devices make it easier to control and adjust the sails, maximizing their efficiency and ensuring a smooth sailing experience.
However, even experienced sailors can occasionally fall victim to certain mistakes when using sail boat winches. To ensure that you make the most of these valuable tools, we’ve compiled a comprehensive list of common mistakes that you should avoid:
1. Neglecting Proper Maintenance One of the biggest oversights sailors often make is neglecting regular maintenance on their sailboat winches . Over time, saltwater exposure, debris accumulation, and general wear and tear can cause winches to become less effective or even malfunction entirely. It’s crucial to clean your winches regularly (especially after every outing), lubricate them with appropriate grease or oil, inspect for any damage or corrosion, and replace parts as necessary.
2. Improper Usage Winch systems are designed specifically for certain operations such as hoisting sails or trimming lines. Using them incorrectly not only decreases their efficiency but also increases the risk of accidents or equipment damage. Familiarize yourself with your specific winch system’s capabilities by thoroughly reading through its user manual.
3. Overloading Winch Capacity Each winch has a specific load capacity which must never be exceeded; otherwise, you risk damaging the gears or even causing them to fail altogether. Make sure you understand your sailboat’s specifications regarding maximum loads per winch size before loading it up excessively.
4. Incorrect Line Placement Placing lines incorrectly on the winch drum is another common mistake made by both beginners and experienced sailors alike. A misaligned line can lead to poor control over sheet tension or cause slipping during critical moments. Always ensure that the line wraps evenly and securely around the winch drum, without overlapping or crossing over itself.
5. Jerky and Rapid Cranking Using excessive force or aggressively cranking the winch handle in a jerky manner can put unnecessary strain on both the winch and yourself. It’s essential to maintain smooth , controlled movements when cranking the winch handle. Distribute your efforts evenly, using your whole body instead of relying solely on arm strength for a more efficient technique.
6. Ignoring Safety Precautions Operating sailboat winches without taking proper safety precautions can lead to severe injuries or accidents. Ensure that loose clothing or jewelry is secured before handling winches to prevent entanglement. Additionally, wearing appropriate gloves will provide you with a better grip while decreasing the chances of rope burns or blisters.
7. Lack of Communication In any sailing endeavor involving multiple crew members, communication is crucial when it comes to working with winches effectively. Failing to communicate clearly about intended maneuvers or anticipated adjustments can lead to confusion and mistakes, compromising both efficiency and safety. Establish clear signals and procedures beforehand to minimize misunderstandings when operating sailboat winches.
By avoiding these common mistakes, you’ll undoubtedly be able to enjoy smoother sailing experiences while prolonging the life of your sailboat winches significantly. Remember, it’s essential always to prioritize safety and maintain regular maintenance routines for optimal performance on your sailing adventures !
Tips and Tricks for Maintaining and Troubleshooting Sail Boat Winches
To all the passionate sailors out there, we know that sailboat winches are a crucial part of your sailing experience. These mechanical wonders help control and trim sails, making your boat glide gracefully through the water . However, like any other piece of equipment on a sailboat, winches require regular maintenance and occasionally encounter problems. Fear not! In this blog post, we will reveal some valuable tips and tricks for maintaining and troubleshooting sailboat winches like a pro.
1. Understand Your Winch: Before diving into maintenance or troubleshooting, it’s essential to understand how your specific winch works. Study the manufacturer’s manual or consult an experienced sailor to gain a comprehensive understanding of the mechanisms involved. This knowledge will serve as your foundation throughout the process.
2. Cleanliness is Key: Saltwater, sand, and grime can quickly build up on sailboat winches, compromising their functionality. Make cleaning a regular part of your maintenance routine. Use freshwater to rinse off any dirt or salt residue from the winch drum, gears, and pawls. A small brush can be handy for reaching intricate areas.
3. Grease Them Up: Lubrication plays a vital role in ensuring smooth operation and longevity of your winches . Apply high-quality marine grease to lubricate moving parts such as gears and pawls periodically but avoid over-greasing which can attract debris.
4. Check for Wear and Tear: Regular inspections are crucial to identify signs of wear and tear before they become major issues during your sailing adventures . Pay close attention to the condition of drum bearings, gear teeth, pawls, springs, and screws – any abnormalities should be addressed promptly by replacing or repairing worn-out components.
5. Tension Adjustment: Maintaining proper tension on your winch lines will enhance performance while reducing wear on ropes (halyards) or sheets in use. Familiarize yourself with different types of line grips available for your winch model to optimize tension settings accordingly.
6. Smooth Rotation: Ratchet mechanisms play a vital role in sailboat winches, ensuring that the drum rotates freely when sailing but locks when you need it to. If you’re experiencing excessive resistance or the ratchet is slipping, it may be time to disassemble and inspect these crucial parts for wear or debris accumulation that hinder smooth rotation.
7. Pawl Springs: The pawls and springs are responsible for holding the line securely in place after each winching action. Inspect these components to ensure they engage smoothly and securely with no signs of weakness or damage. Replace any worn-out pawl springs promptly as they can affect the reliability of your winch.
8. Winch Servicing Kit: Consider investing in a winch servicing kit designed specifically for your brand and model. These kits usually contain an assortment of replacement parts, such as new pawls, springs, bearings, and seals – all conveniently packaged together for easy maintenance.
9. Seek Professional Assistance when Needed: Sailboat winches can be intricate pieces of machinery requiring specific expertise for complex repairs or maintenance tasks. If you encounter major problems beyond your capabilities, don’t hesitate to seek professional help from experienced marine mechanics or reputable sailboat service centers.
10. Prevention is Better than Cure: Regular maintenance is key to avoiding unexpected issues during crucial moments at sea. Establish a maintenance schedule and stick to it diligently – this will ensure that your sailboat winches are always ready for action when you cast off!
Now armed with these essential tips and tricks for maintaining and troubleshooting your sailboat winches, you’ll be able to keep them functioning at their best while enjoying worry-free sailing adventures on open waters! Happy sailing!
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Sailing Winch Secrets: How To Use a Winch
A winch can rip off your finger or save your back. If you know what you're doing, nothing beats this modern convenience for hauling in a sail in heavy breeze.
One of the most conspicuous features of a modern sailboat is the high chrome shine of the winches. Your eye is drawn to their steely glow while your inner voice tells you that these things mean danger.
They really are one of the most dangerous pieces of equipment on a sailboat, but also one of the most utilitarian tools a boat may have. By following a few precautions and always keeping your bearings about you, you can use this tool for all sorts of functions and still keep all your fingers attached at the socket.
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The Traditional Function Of A Winch
When I signed up for the sailing team at the US Coast Guard Academy, the coach walked in and asked who in the room had ever used a winch before? The quizzical looks on many of the young swab faces must have told him that he had very few real sailors in the newly minted class of 1994, and he explained, “You know that thing that looks like a coffee grinder that you wind around with a handle?”
Several faces lit up with that explanation and he immediately tapped those in the know for the big boat team. The rest of the young swabs would be sent to the dinghy team, while the select few would be elevated to relative stardom by joining on the crew to race the big boats in the weekend club series at area yacht clubs.
By being selected for the big boat team, we would be allowed to leave the base most weekends of the fall and play with civilians at yacht club parties who would fawn over the fact that academy cadets were at THEIR party. That was my favorite function of the winch at that point, to get me into parties, but not really how a winch is supposed to be used.
Winches are however just as the coach described them. They look like big coffee grinders and you spin them around with a winch handle. They come in lots of sizes, but all pretty much have the same shape and function - to haul in the jib sheets to trim the jib on the upwind leg.
I have seen little brass ones no bigger than a cat food can on old sailboats from the 60s and I have seen huge drum sized winches on yachts that would make you puke with envy. Regardless of their size however, they all do pretty much the same thing - pull in the jib sheets.
How To Use A Winch
Winch operation is pretty simple too - after all, it is a simple machine. You wrap the line around the winch three or four times from the bottom up, pulling the line in with one hand and while you crank the winch with the other. On big boats or heavy breeze days, you can team up on a winch with a crew mate, where one person is the grinder and the other person pulls in the line or “tails the winch”.
The friction of the line wraps around the drum of the winch which usually has some kind of ridges etched in it for better holding effect. As you pull the tail of the line out of the winch the winch spins on bearings and offers you a better purchase on the line than you would have if you were just pulling the line directly from the jib.
The person grinding (or your other hand) can assist your pulling hand or tailor pull the line in by manually spinning the winch with the winch handle. This is where you can exact revenge on a grinder by telling them to grind the winch without actually pulling on the line making them think they are doing work without actually doing anything. (You have to pull on the line for a winch to work).
That’s it - an elegantly simple machine doing a yeoman’s effort of work - better living through technology.
Winch Accidents
Who would think that something so elegantly simple could be so dangerous? Winches while rarely causing lethal injuries, have been known to make some pretty grotesque origami of fingers and hands of errant pit crew (the people who trim the jib in a sailboat race are called the pit crew because they work in the the cockpit and all they do is grind winches).
All too often, a tailor will allow their hands to get a little too close to the winch wraps on the drum and the line will suck your hand into the wraps, crushing, twisting and mangling your fingers and hands.
This is where the grinder can get their revenge by grinding your hands to pulp in the drum of the winch, but my hope is no one is malicious enough to intentionally grind someone’s hand up into a winch on a sailboat.
There are ways however to avoid having your hands and fingers sucked into a winch. That comes from how you hold the line. Grasping the line with your thumbs towards you and pulling hand over hand is the safest way to grasp a line. This keeps the finger that makes us human, the thumb, furthest away from danger and allows you drop the line in a hurry if things ever get out of hand.
Invariably however, some people hold the line the wrong way and that is when tragedy strikes.
Wrapping The Winch
The way you wrap a winch is key as one way will work and the other way will not. Most winches will be wrapped from the bottom up in a clockwise direction. I am a little dislexic when it comes to how to load a winch, so usually I will give the winch a turn with my hand before I load it to make sure I understand which way it turns.
Once you have wrapped your winch, it is ready to haul- so keep your hands safe as soon as you put the line on the winch. You’ll know it's time to load up your winch or wrap it, when the skipper says “ready about”.
The Tacking Process
With your winch loaded, your boat is ready to tack and you will tell your skipper that you're ready. Helm over, the bow swings through the wind and at this point you will release the sheet by unwrapping the line from the winch and allowing it to run freely to the other side, where hopefully your grinder has preloaded their winch and are ready to pull in when the jib switches sides.
An effective tack requires the timing of the process to be exact. If you release your winch too soon, your boat will lose speed and fail to complete the tack. If you release your winch wraps too late, your jib can get stuck up on your mast or life lines and may make the boat over tack or turn too far down wind.
The only way to master the timing of the tack is to practice, but with time and practice you will get a feel for how your boat tacks and when you should release the jib sheet.
For more info on tacking please see our article on sailing maneuvers .
Other Uses For Your Winch
Alton Brown of The Food Network has said that the only unitasker allowed in his kitchen is a fire extinguisher, and I would suggest that that thinking also applies on a sailboat.
The space is too small and efficiency is too imperative to allow any single use tools to have a place on your boat and as such the winch is no different. Did you really think that a winch could only be used for jib sheets?
Winches can be used for all sorts of other functions in a sailboat, many that have no relation to sailing at all.
I use my jib winch for hauling in spring lines or breast lines on breezy days when the wind is setting my boat off the dock. A few wraps from a dock line and even the most ardent vessels will relent and come alongside a pier or bulkhead.
Winches can also be located on the mast for hauling halyards and on the stern quarters for hauling spinnaker gear. It is this universal nature of the winch that makes it such a useful tool on a sailboat.
Other functions can include hauling a MOB over the side or cinching in a dinghy for stormy weather. The coupling of blocks and tackle with a well placed winch can turn a deck winch or a mast winch into an integral part of any emergency plan- so get creative.
Self-Tailing, Electric And Other Revelations In Winch Technology
Perhaps I am showing my age, but when I was a boy, winches came in one flavor, manual.
Today however, there are so many advancements in winch technology that you can navigate your vessel and trim your sails with an app on your phone below decks so that you don't even need sunscreen anymore.
Self tailing winches are winches that wrap the tail in a round jam cleat that is located on the top of the drum. When you crank the drum, the winch will pull the tail simultaneously eliminating the need for a crew member to pull your tail for you.
Electric winches go one step further where an electric motor grinds the winch for you while the winch self-tails, making it possible for you to raise and lower your main or trim your jib without ever exerting any physical effort whatsoever.
I have even seen aftermarket products that can turn a traditional manual winch into an electric winch by using a battery operated hand held motor to grind the winch for you. It may seem like cheating to some, but technology in winch grinding has made it possible for all sorts of people with physical limitations to enter the sport of sailing and/or continue to enjoy the sport of sailing well into their senior years.
Winch Care and Maintenance
I am told and have read that caring for one’s winch is very much a DIY project, but taking a winch apart has never been my favorite thing to do. One wrong move and the loss of one bearing makes a $3000 winch into scrap metal.
So to that extent, washing a winch with mild soap and lots of fresh water to keep salt and sand out of the gears is about as far as I go in caring for my winches. Then again, I have never had really expensive boats either.
I have seen lots of people also cover their winches with canvas and my feeling is while this is cute, it doesn’t do a heck of a lot to protect and may in fact promote rust and corrosion on your aluminum, chrome, stainless steel or bronze varieties. However, covering carbon or other composite types of winches may prolong the life of their finish as UV rays can degrade these varieties.
For more on how to disassemble a winch, how to grease a winch and how to install a winch, check out Google. Harken, West Marine and Ronstan all stand to make money selling you on taking a winch apart because odds are if you do you'll have to buy a new one. I have sailed with winches that were decades old and worked perfectly without ever greasing them or taking them apart;so I will recommend sticking to soap and water. But you do you.
For now though, watch your digits when loading and hauling on your winch and don't get too intimidated by those barrel side jobs on the luxury sailboats. They are all just winches at the core and all they really do is make pulling in lines easier.
So do good, have fun and sail far.
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Capt Chris German
Capt Chris German is a life long sailor and licensed captain who has taught thousands to sail over the last 20 years. In 2007, he founded a US Sailing-based community sailing school in Bridgeport, CT for inner city youth and families. When Hurricane Sandy forced him to abandon those efforts, he moved to North Carolina where he set out to share this love for broadcasting and sailing with a growing web-based television audience through The Charted Life Television Network.
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Self-Tailing Winches & How They Work!
Self-tailing winches hold the line while you crank the winch handle. This means you do not have to pull the excess line while the winch turns. This allows your second hand to be available for other things like holding on during rough seas.
This article is about self-tailing winches and how they work. Keep reading to find out more about them and the alternatives to self-tailing winches.
What Are The Advantages Of A Self-Tailing Winch?
A self-tailing winch will hold the line by itself. It has a slot at the top where you put the tail of the line. While you turn the winch, the line will tail itself. This allows you to have an extra hand free when winching the lines.
After using a non-self-tailing winch for years, switching to a self-tailing winch will feel amazing. Not having to deal with that extra line is a great feeling. You will wonder how you ever lived without these.
Self-tailing winches will also hold your line even when you are done cranking it. I still always recommend cleating it off just in case you were to knock the line loose, but that is up to you.
An important thing to remember when considering a self-tailing winch will be the size needed.
How Does A Winch Work On A Sailboat?
A winch is used to tighten the sails. This is done by wrapping the line around the winch and cranking it until it is tight. A winch will allow the sail sheet to be tightened a lot more than a human can tighten it. This will optimize the sail shape and harness the wind better, creating more speed.
The winch is a very important part of sailing. If you want to use the wind to its full capacity, then you need to utilize your winches. When I started sailing I never bothered to touch the winches. I just sailed without them and had a great time. You can do this as well until you are ready.
The winch will create more pressure on your lines causing the sail to tighten much farther than it would under normal human strength. Winches have a rough almost teeth-like grip that the lines will wrap around. This grip allows the winch to hold on to the rope and not slide when tightening it. If you let go of the rope it will loosen though.
A winch always turns clockwise, so remember to wrap your lines in a clockwise motion. If, you can remember this turn the winch with your hand before wrapping the lines around it. This will help remind you. After doing it for a while you will never forget it again. Follow the steps below for using a non-self-tailing winch.
How To Use A Non-Self-Tailing Winch
1. pull the slack out of the sheet, before wrapping it around the winch., 2. wrap the line around the winch in a clockwise motion, starting at the bottom., 3. after three wraps, pull more slack out of the line if you can., 4. insert the handle and grind/crank the winch handle., 5. while cranking the winch, tail(pull) the extra line out of the way to avoid override., 6. once it is the right amount of tight, cleat off the line., 7. remove the winch handle and store it securely., 8. if the sail is too tight, uncleat it and slowly let the line out. when the desired tightness is reached cleat it off again..
There are a few things to remember when winching. Be careful not to knock your winch handle in the water. There are thousands of lost winch handles at the bottom of the ocean. I always store it securely as soon as I cleat the line off. Most boats have a specific spot to store the handle.
Do not overlap your line on the winch. Each wrap should sit against the winch. Overlapping your lines will cause a tangled knotted mess or override that will cause serious problems for you.
I also do not always grind my winch with the handle. I will wrap the winch two times and pull it tight. Just wrapping the winch one or two times will allow you to pull the line easier. If you want the most speed then you will need to crank it with the handle. When I am just cruising I hardly ever use my winch handle.
If you want to make your life easier, I recommend using a self-tailing winch. Go to the next section to see what these are about.
What Size Winch Do I Need For My Sailboat?
To select the correct winch size, you will need to know the overall length of your boat and the area of the sail that you will be winching. If you plan to use multiple sails for the same winch, use the sail with the larger area for calculating winch size.
Another thing to consider when purchasing a winch is speed. The basic options are 1-speed or 2-speed. I have used both and I like the 2-speed winches. The difference is the crank speed. When you turn the handle one way it goes at 1 speed and if you crank the handle the other way it goes faster, which is the 2nd speed. Having a multi-speed option allows you to get the perfect trim for your sail.
In racing, they want to trim the sail quick after a tack. The higher speed helps them do that. If you are just going to be cruising the 2-speed is not necessary but it is nice to have when you want it.
Take a look at the diagram below to find out what size winch is recommended for your boat. Provided by andersen.com
Are Winch Handles Interchangeable?
Winch handles are interchangeable for all common winches. The main difference in winches is the locking mechanisms and the length of the handle.
You can normally purchase a winch handle that will lock in the winch or not. This is a great idea because so many are dropped overboard. You can also buy ones that are designed to float if they go overboard. During a race, you probably won’t stop to pick it up but maybe you can find it after the race.
The bigger the sails, the bigger the winch. The bigger the winch, the bigger the winch handle.
One of the best winches I have ever seen is the folding winch handle by EasySea. The handle never has to leave the winch. It folds down on top of itself making sure it is never in your way. Check out the video below to see how they work.
If you are a casual sailor or a circumnavigator I highly recommend this winch handle.
If you are not able to get one of these foldable winch handles, just make sure to secure your regular one in a safe place that is easy to access.
If you want to find out more about winches and how to repair them, click here! How to fix your winch in 12 steps!
Final thoughts.
I believe every sailor should be utilizing self-tailing winches. They make the sailor’s life so much easier and more organized. My first boat didn’t have them and it was such a hassle to use, that I rarely used them. Just do whatever makes you feel the most comfortable and don’t go out and spend thousands on new winches. Try looking for used ones if you want some and don’t have the money. Cheers!
Boatlifehq owner and author/editor of this article.
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46 Electric Self-Tailing Rewind™ Radial Winch — Reverse Speed, Chrome
Part No. 46RWC
Maximum line Ø (mm) 14 mm
Maximum line Ø (in) 9/16 in
Configuration Self-tailing
Power ratio - 1 11.70
Power ratio - 2 46.50
F (mm) 155 mm
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Activated remotely by twin in/out buttons, the Rewind Radial lets you safely ease and trim highly loaded sails in both directions without ever taking the line out of the self-tailer, a patented feature. Like all electric Radials, the Rewind operates like a normal Harken two-speed electric winch. A simple flip of the red knob on the winch base turns on the rewind feature. A spring-loaded arm of investment-cast stainless steel funnels and keeps line captive as it feeds in and out of the self-tailer while you adjust the sail under fingertip control. Each electric winch requires one control box, one circuit breaker, and two analog switches or one Digital System Switch. All new electric Radial and Performa electric winches are supplied with the appropriate dual-function control box. For replacement or retrofit control boxes, contact Harken.
Minimum line Ø (mm) | 10 mm |
Minimum line Ø (in) | 3/8 in |
Maximum line Ø (mm) | 14 mm |
Maximum line Ø (in) | 9/16 in |
Height (mm) | 203 mm |
Height (in) | 8 in |
Weight (kg) | 18.6 kg |
Weight (lb) | 41.0 lb |
Number of fasteners | 5 |
Fasteners (mm) | M8 SH mm |
Fasteners (in) | 5/16 SH in |
E (mm) | 43 mm |
E (in) | 1 3/4 in |
F (mm) | 155 mm |
F (in) | 6 1/8 in |
Configuration | Self-tailing |
Speed | 2 |
Drum Ø (mm) | 100 mm |
Drum Ø (in) | 3 7/8 in |
Base Ø (mm) | 184 mm |
Base Ø (in) | 7 1/4 in |
Line entry height (mm) | 90 mm |
Line entry height (in) | 3 9/16 in |
Fastener circle (in) | 5 7/8 in |
Fastener circle (mm) | 150 mm |
Gear ratio - 1 | 2.30 |
Gear ratio - 2 | 9.17 |
Power ratio - 1 | 11.70 |
Power ratio - 2 | 46.50 |
G (mm) | 280 mm |
G (in) | 11 in |
Material | Chrome |
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My jib sheet winches are non-self tailing two speed Barient 22; original to the boat. They are in good condition, but I would like to change to self tailing - possibly with a conversion kit. I'ld like to avoid the expense of new winches. I came across Winchmate.com which makes self tailing conversion kits for Barient, but they only make them for Barient 27 thru 32 models, not the 22. Does anyone know of a company that makes self tailing conversion kits for the Barient 22? Secondly, I spotted a pair of self tailing two speed Barient 23 winches on ebay- same size as the 22's - asking about $650 for the pair. They looked a bit beat up though the seller described it as cosmetic damage only. Does that sound like a good value? Are there particular issues or pitfalls to be aware of with used or older self tailing winches? Of course, if I replace the winches, I don't have to stay with the same company, especially one that's no longer made. But if the parts are compatible, picking up a pair of Barient 23's might make sense. Does anyone know if the mechanism and gear ratios of the 23's match the 22's? Is it possible the drum and stripper arm are the only difference?
According to the harken site, you would spend around $1500 on this site to get the new self tailors they recommend for your boat - #40s. Figure on ebay, that $650 price may go up a bit.
Huge winch sale at Defender last time I checked I could by #40ST Lewmar's for $800 each. Just checked again and it is still $799. I am getting very tempted. I have old non tailing 43's on my boat. However, if I tack worth a damn I really just reel in the sheet and damn the tailing. I only have to use the winches for fine adjustments. Contact Phil first to see if he can match it though.
Warren Milberg
First of all, I would say that self-tailing winches are wonderful! As a mostly solo sailor, self-tailing winches really make the task of sail trim a breeze. Secondly, multi-speed ST winches are a somewhat complicated piece of expensive machinery. While I have purchased a number of sailing items from eBay, I have not and probably would not, buy used winches there unless the seller gave me the option to return them. I do, however, think that there are some bargains to be had in buying used winches, but I would buy them at local consignment shops where I could make sure everything is in working order first.
The Barient non ST #22 and #23ST winches are mechanically different. Some of the parts may be interchangeable but you would have to know which models you have. Barient made three different models of the non ST #22"s and two models of the #23ST that I'm aware of. If you were able to get a pair of #23ST for $650 you would have gotten an excellent deal. Barient made high quality, very robust hardware which is why they are still in high demand in the used winch market. Winches made 30 years ago are still in service. Winches of this size have been selling for between $750-$950 on Ebay recently. I sold a pair of smaller one speed Barient #17ST last summer which went for $950. Admittedly, much more than I expected to get for them. I've been keeping my eye specifically on the Barient #23ST because I have a pair that I may put up for auction on ebay in the Spring. Generally, the chrome drum models have been fetching higher numbers than the aluminum ones. The pawl pockets of the aluminum drums have a tendency to wear out sooner then the pockets of the chromed bronze drums. I guess that's why the chrome models have been fetching higher numbers. Pawl pockets can be repaired if they are worn excessively.
Stu Jackson
Have you considered "winchers?" A search would turn up tons of discussion about them. Some love 'em, some hate 'em. I happened to admire mine on our old C25 very much. The $40 price si right, too. What do you have to lose?
winches Ive got a used pair of barlow #23 2 speed non self tailing that I picked up in a used marine supply about 7 years ago I woud say they are about 30 years old now. I paid $500 for the pair. Im pretty sure they are the same as barients the parts seem to be interchangable and replacements are available from arco in Austrailia. They are top quality solid winhes. About buying them site unseen off the net ? You pay your money and take your chances About winchers/ they do work but not like self tailing winches. On a scale of 1-10 I rate them a 5 my opinion
Joseph Shirley
$650 for a pair of Barient Self Tailers is a great bargain. Barient was a quality product. I would have no qualms about buying them if you are satisfied with the size and the purchase they provide. There is one thing to look for in buying a used winch. To insure that they haven't been overloaded and ruined. You do this by inspecting the pawl pockets. If a winch was overloaded, the pawl pockets were stressed and the pawl fits so sloppily, that there may be cracks in the pawl pockets, or the pawls are no longer held captive, can come out, and jam the winch. This is an easy inspection to make, but you do have to dissemble the winch to check. Good Luck Joe S
Dave Groshong
Harken 40ST's (aluminum) are on sale here through the 9th, $759/ea. http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detail.htm?group=1515
I am looking at the numbers for the conversion kits at winchmate.com and it doesn't seem they are cost effective for smaller winches. If they made a kit for your Barient 22 it would still cost at least $500+ for each winch. Dave Groshong is selling 2 speed harkens by the pair for a very competitive price on this site. If you're ready to spend $1000 now to convert existing winches....... I'd cough up another $500 and get brand new shiny ones that will last a life time.
My B32 uses Lewmar 30's. 3/8 line. Maybe you should explore other makes?
Thanks everyone. You've provided alot of helpfull information and ideas. Conversion kits, even if I found one to fit my winches, don't look promising or cost effective, and I passed today on the ebay offer I had seen. No return option - and I became more concerned about their condition when I took a second look, especially in light of some of your comments. Hope they work out for whoever bought them. Bidding (only 2 bids) closed today at $610 plus shipping. Maybe a great deal, maybe not... At this point I am in the market for a pair of used or discounted new self tailers, not limited to Barient, and I have a much better idea of what to check for when I inspect them thanks to your comments, particularly about the pawl sockets. I am not inclined to buy off ebay without a clear return policy. I did consider Winchers, and have not ruled them out for my main halyard winch, but Practical Sailor does not recommend them for sheet winches and they don't create a true self tailer. Thanks again everyone, and Ted, if you decide to sell those ST 23's in the spring, give me a heads-up. I not in a hurry, so I might still be looking.
Grateful Dad
I just picked up a pair of Barient 23ST's in working condition at a local marina for $300. They were on a boat that had been abandoned and the owner of the marina was happy to get any salvage money he could out of it. I had to remove them myself but since the boat is going to be crushed anyway, a Sawzall did the trick in 10 minutes. Now I want to clean and lubricate them over the Winter before installing them in the Spring. Does anyone have a recommendation on lubricant and on what to look for as possible wear items? BTW - If anyone else is doing the same, here is a good resource: http://www.rodlawson.com/oceans/articlewinch.html Does
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There are three ways to do it. The simplest and most cost-effective way to convert your winches is by installing 'winchers'. These are simple rubbers that hold the rope for you. You could also use a winch conversion kit like Winchmate. Or you could replace the winches by self-tailing ones. I prefer the first option.
Harken #40 Radial self-tailing chrome two-speed winch. Harken Radial Winches have angled ribs that drive the line down on the drum when you ease it. Therefore, on a winch with a 10" handle length, 5" drum diameter, and a 6:1 gear ratio, the power ratio is (10/2.5) x 6=24:1. Higher numbers mean that your strength is multiplied more and that the ...
Among the crucial components of a sailboat, the self-tailing winch stands out as a true workhorse. In this comprehensive guide, we'll delve into the world of self-tailing winches, exploring their meaning, function, and how they can enhance your sailing experience. Understanding the basics. Let's start with the basics.
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Small winches do not come with the self-tailing mechanism; most manufacturers (Andersen is the exception) start the self-tailers with #16s, which also happens to be the minimum size for two-speed gearing. Small winches are said to have a gear ratio of 1:1. That means they are direct drive. The only power advantage is that provided by a winch ...
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In this video, David demonstrates how to use a SELF-tailing winch effectively, so that it SELF-tails which means you don't have to tail it LOL because it's S...
There are two main types of sail boat winches—self-tailing and standard winches. Standard winches require manual tailing or holding onto the sheet while turning the handle to increase or decrease tension. On the other hand, self-tailing winches feature a built-in mechanism that automatically grips and holds onto the line when it is turned in ...
Plain top sailboat winches will require you to tail the loose end to keep tension on your turns while operating the winch. Self-tailing winches free up the hand from the loose end of the rope and facilitating better handling of the winch and winch handle. Electrical winches are available as a solution to short-handed or overpowered sailing.
Sprung self-tailing jaws to accept 8 - 14mm line. QuickTrim™ patented self-tailing feature for rapid sail trim and smooth adjustment. Ball bearings carry the thrust loads, roller bearings carry the radial loads of the drum to minimise rotational friction. Proven gearing configuration.
Enjoy sailing without the grind with these electric winches and electric winch conversion kits. Electric winches operate at the touch of a button and provide a full manual two-speed override when you want it. Wavespring self tailing is standard on all models. For manual operation, simply insert the winch handle in the socket and crank.
How To Use A Winch. Winch operation is pretty simple too - after all, it is a simple machine. You wrap the line around the winch three or four times from the bottom up, pulling the line in with one hand and while you crank the winch with the other. On big boats or heavy breeze days, you can team up on a winch with a crew mate, where one person ...
Boat Winches. We stock boat winches from top manufacturer brands including Lewmar and Barton. Choose from standard manual winches that operate with a winch handle to electric winches that start with the push of a button. We also stock self-tailing winches, including the popular Lewmar Ocean Winch.
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2. Wrap the line around the winch in a clockwise motion, starting at the bottom. 3. After three wraps, pull more slack out of the line if you can. 4. Insert the handle and grind/crank the winch handle. 5. While cranking the winch, tail (pull) the extra line out of the way to avoid override. 6.
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Small Boat Classic. Flip-Flop Small Boat. GP Catamaran Ceramic Mainsheet Systems. Protexit™ Exit Blocks. Through-Deck. Wire High-Strength. Dinghy Vang. ... 46 Electric Self-Tailing Rewind™ Radial Winch — Reverse Speed, Chrome . Part No. 46RWC. Maximum line Ø (mm) 14 mm. Maximum line Ø (in) 9/16 in. Configuration Self-tailing . Speed 2 .
Barton's Wincher Self Tailing Adapter is a specially designed rubber molding designed to fit over the top of standard winches converting them to self tailing. Features: Sold as a pair Easy to fit and available in four sizes to suit most winches ... Sailing Winches. Winch Parts & Service Kits; Item #861787. Barton Wincher Self Tailing Adapters ...
After much debate (and kicking myself for throwing my budget to the wind), I'm going to get Self Tailing winches for my 82 C-22. I came to this conclusion for two reasons; first, I can loose the cam cleats... but more importantly, I tried putting a few turns of my 3/8" headsail sheet around my small Andersen 10 winches (same same as the stock ARCO 6) and the small drum diameter just does not ...
Boat is rigged with "running" back stays with purchase tackle. Spinnaker pole with track on front of mast. This boat is built for offshore sailing. Standing rigging is in good shape. All lines led aft to cockpit. Bronze Cabin top self tailing winches. Bronze self tailing Jib winches. Two bronze tailing winches aft of jib winches. 6 winches ...
Nov 1, 2009. #3. Huge winch sale at Defender last time I checked I could by #40ST Lewmar's for $800 each. Just checked again and it is still $799. I am getting very tempted. I have old non tailing 43's on my boat. However, if I tack worth a damn I really just reel in the sheet and damn the tailing.
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