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Ideas for Interior small sail boat
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Hi Guys , Thanks for letting me join this group . Im so stuck for ideas its so small it sleeps 2 adults and 2 kids . Any ideas for storage , small little sink and gas stove please see pic below . Thanks
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@Arcb is the man to guide you on this.
Thanks OTL, I do cruise with a family of 4 on a similar sized boat. A quick look at the Cyrrus drawings suggests sleeping space is adequate but storage is limited because the quarter births use up all or most of the cockpit storage locations locker space. One solution would be to build a boom//cockpit tent and sleeping insert so one or two people can sleep in the cockpit while one or two people sleep in the cockpit and use one 🕜 f the quarter births for storage. Another solution would be storage totes that are kept on a quarter birth and no ved to the cockpit or cabin sole while you sleep. A fourth solution is every one packs light and shares their personal sleeping area with their gear. There is a small galley, so I would be inclined to use the galley storage for just that. There are some really compact cook sets like Trangia or the little portable butane cookers. But for actual cooking and meal prep on such a small boat, I would do that, you can use a boom tent when it's raining. Here is a video of how I pack my boat which has more storage space, but less sleeping space. Here's another video that shows a very compact galley set up. Note, we are docked and cooking on a picnic table ashore, a great option for a family on a tiny boat, but won't work for all cruising areas.
^^ concerning the second video: we use collapsible bowls (of all sizes) as well as collapsible food storage containers. I think Rubbermaid makes them, I'd have to ask the Admiral. This drastically cuts down on the volume consumed by these items when not in use.
nicole.mckelvey001 said: Hi Guys , Thanks for letting me join this group . Im so stuck for ideas its so small it sleeps 2 adults and 2 kids . Any ideas for storage , small little sink and gas stove please see pic below . Thanks Click to expand...
That being said: the buggest problems can be having a suitable toilet and being able to do well in heavy weather in a small boat with the most valuable cargo in the world aboard namely your children. I don't know how to advise you with these in this forum but you must figure that out first.
Agree with what ACRB says. I've had a 25ft ODay with family of 5, and currently have a 19ft Mariner that I singlehand, but others cruise with 3-4. In a 20ft boat, you are harbor hopping, not open ocean cruising. With kids, keep the daily sailing distances to less than 15 miles (10-12 is probably optimum). Go where kids can swim when you are anchored or staying for the night. At the very least, anchor in deeper water and swim off the boat (good boarding ladder and life jackets needed). A 20ft boat allows you to pull in very tight to shore or even beach if a centerboard. If you can involve the kids with sailing - tiller time (best) or at least trimming sails, you can lengthen the daily sailing time by an hour or so. Solar shower hung from the boom in a self-bailing cockpit works well for cleanup and making people feel better. As I learned on the ODay 25 in the North Channel, we rearranged the boat for each activity. Get up, and get all the sleeping bags and sleep gear put away. Set up for breakfast (I cooked on a camp stove in cockpit), eat breakfast, cleanup. Rearrange for sailing, sail for a few hours. Some days, we would sail through lunch, and eat sandwiches. Other times, we would stop at a beach or anchor and eat lunch ashore. If we did dinner ashore, we had to finish cleanup before the mosquitos came out at sunset. Although it slows you even more, towing a small dinghy probably adds to the fun. I usually planned for a day ashore once every 3-5 days, either a tourist attraction or a hike. On storms, you don't deliberately sail into them. But sometimes you get caught. Thunderstorms with microbursts are actually the worst. You need to get sails down to absolute minimum in those cases. A rainy day is a marina day or a go ashore day. Your boat will safely sail in maybe 25kts of wind, but I tend to make it a lay day for anything over 20kts. I don't take non-sailing friends out in calms or over 15kts - I want them to have a good time the 1st time. Kids are the same - give them too much bad weather, and they will never want to sail again. So - 1) pick somewhat protected waters with lots of protected coves 2) swim beaches are a huge plus 3) marinas available every 3rd day 4) do alternate activities when weather is not there for pleasurable sailing 5) don't be afraid to motor in calms or for weather avoidance Fred W Stuart Mariner 19 #4133 Sweet P
There are a lot of ingenious solutions that are used on small boat interiors. Most involve finding multi function solutions for any fixed element that allows the same volume to be flexibly utilized. When I was designing the interior for some of the smaller boats that I owned or designed, I looked some of L. Francis Herreshoff's solutions in his book, Sensible Cruising Boats. The other very creative designer of small boat interiors is Phillip Bolger. Although I have not seen one in real life, I understand there's a compendium of Bolger's work that combines his books "The Folding Schooner", "30 Odd Boats" and "Small boats" from the 1970's and 1980's into a single volume. One of the things I experimented with was canvas seats and berths that had sleeves for a pipe support on the edges that allowed the berth or seat to be stowed completely out of the way until needed. At the time you could buy aluminum conduit cheaply and I also used the same tubes to convert the boom tent to a harbor awning. Jeff
One of our practices when anchored out was to put the toilet in the cockpit at night. Better privacy since it is plenty dark. No stink. Also, switch to a desicating head. desicating head
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