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As part of my boat research process, I have taken a casual glance at the old Alden 44 Mk I's from around 1980 and aside from a Jack Horner review and Ferenc Mate's books, I can find little else about them on the internet. Is there anyone out there who owns one, sailed one, or knows of an online resource I can look at so I can either add it to my short list or get it's lovely lines out of my head for good?? I hearsay that one or more may have circumnavigated... No direct experience with them. Only know them by reputation. Top quality build. Certainly suitable for bluewater cruising. I appreciate your response! It seems like the only time I hear these boats referenced is in a list of "top ten boats I would love to have" - but they aren't even in the list. The list starts out, "well, aside from Hinckley, Alden, Morris, and Shannon, here are my top ten..." But aside from the fact that a brand new one of these babies is a bajillion dollars, nobody ever says *why* they would want a Hinckaldemorrishannon, other than that they are beautiful as they wipe the drool with their shirtsleeve. What if you COULD own one, would you? If the late '70's and early '80's boats are creeping down in the reach of mere mortals like myself, why buy a 1982 blistered Valiant that somebody has ragged to pieces when I can get an 1978 Alden owned by some East Coast Senator who sailed it two weekends a year and stored it on the hard in his personal boat shed the rest of the time, with an army of paid servants to lavish it with oil and varnish and upgrades? I digress... I guess what I am looking for is an honest discussion about some of these older high-end boats and their handling characteristics, common problems, idiosyncracies, etc. Maybe ONE website of somebody who owns one (I even found a Cape George 36 owner's website). Final question: I often read that the best used boats to look for are 5-10 years old. Is a 25-30 year old boat, no matter who makes it, not as good an idea..? And if you say, Well you can get such and such boat made in the 90's that will work just fine for the same price, I will say, yeah, but it's not an ALDEN. Lavish me with knowledge... The man who knows more about Alden 44's than anyone you'll find is Bill Seifert. He was production manager for Alden (and other companies), is a very experienced deepwater sailor, has written a very handy book on offshore sailing tricks of the trade, and has been maintaining Alden all 'round the world for many years. He lives in Rhode Island, when not globetrotting. You might be able to track him down there and get an honest opinion. A beautiful Alden 44, "Cariad", was next to me in the BVI for several years. Her owner was a surgeon, I believe, and the boat was taken to the Pacific Northwest. Bill S/V Born Free I have read Bill's book and it's one of my favorite in my steadily growing library. More generally, I guess at this point my post will undoubtedly overlap with the "age trump design" post. Seems to me that buying an older high end design would be about the same as a newer, not so high end (but still good) design. Probably cost the same and after 10 years if nothing has been done otherwise, they will probably both need new sails, rigging, electronics, etc, anyway. We recently did an analysis that is similar to the one you have discussed and opted to buy a much older but very well maintained "high-end" boat (a 30 year old S&S designed Swan). I could never have afforded a comparable boat of recent vintage. We have been very pleased with it but would only have done it if it was already in very good shape. THere is no limit to how much money you can spend restoring or updating a boat of that vintage, particularly if you are doing it to "Alden standards." What boat, exactly, did you end up with? mattypatty said: What boat, exactly, did you end up with? Click to expand... In 1987, I had a limited budget but wanted to go cruising - Aldens and Swans were out. I opted for the 'poor man's Swan' - a Tartan 41. It still stretched my budget but it was worth it. I ended up living aboard for 2 years and came to trust this boat in all conditions. Another moniker the Tartan 41 goes by is: "Racing Sherman Tank." She's not perfect, and the same list of constraints posted by CBinRI go for this boat. Even so, you may want to take a look. Sialia said: In 1987, I had a limited budget but wanted to go cruising - Aldens and Swans were out. I opted for the 'poor man's Swan' - a Tartan 41. It still stretched my budget but it was worth it. I ended up living aboard for 2 years and came to trust this boat in all conditions. Another moniker the Tartan 41 goes by is: "Racing Sherman Tank." She's not perfect, and the same list of constraints posted by CBinRI go for this boat. Even so, you may want to take a look. Click to expand... Bill Seifert was production manager at Tartan also. Ask him about the T41 as well as the Alden 44. Wow. Just wow. Both those boats are absolutely beautiful (looked em up on boats.com). So do you both find that the older high-end, high quality boats have stood the test of time? No regrets? Does the Swan reputation still hold up after all these years? Great responses, by the way, this was just the kind of info I was looking for. mattypatty said: Wow. Just wow. Both those boats are absolutely beautiful (looked em up on boats.com). So do you both find that the older high-end, high quality boats have stood the test of time? No regrets? Does the Swan reputation still hold up after all these years? Great responses, by the way, this was just the kind of info I was looking for. Click to expand... No doubt. But any boat will have issues and if we aren't paying for it up front in a new boat (depreciation) we are paying for it on the back end with upgrades and refits. In my mind, I'll be buying a used boat anyway and anything over 10 years old (even 5, depending on use/neglect) will need to soak up plenty of my sweat and dollars. I don't fear the time and money, I just want to be sure to get a solid design from a reputable mfg so I have a good foundation on which to build. As to the Swan reputation, I don't want to sound like an advocate. And frankly, I don't have a lot of experience on newer Swans. I do know that they are are, in general, very fast and very expensive and have a reputation for being very well-built. They tend to be very popular for racing. If you are interested, I would suggest some google searches on Swans and S&S designs. (S&S stopped designing for them in the late 70s but they continiued to use top-notch designers.) It sounds like you are approaching this in a reasonable manner. Good luck. I just bought a 1978, if you are sill listening......#5 I own hull 22 and am interested in making a group or blog for all of us Alden 44 owners to chat on and trade info. Was thinking a Facebook group or something like that. Top Contributors this Month |
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ALDEN 44. Save to Favorites . Beta Marine. BOTH. US IMPERIAL. METRIC. Sailboat Specifications Definitions Hull Type: Keel/Cbrd. Rigging Type: Cutter: LOA: 44.16 ft / 13.46 m ... A Ballast/Displacement ratio of 40 or more translates into a stiffer, more powerful boat that will be better able to stand up to the wind. Bal./Disp = ballast (lbs ...
Find Alden 44 boats for sale in your area & across the world on YachtWorld. Offering the best selection of Alden boats to choose from.
The Alden 44 is an American sailboat that was designed by Alden Associates and Niels Helleberg as an International Offshore Rule racer and first built in 1976. Production. The design was built by Tillotson Pearson in the United States for Alden Yachts, but it is now out of production. Design. The ...
Boat Details. Description. For sale: 1980 44' Alden 44' Cutter, hull number 16 of 40. "Vi". A design that turns heads every marina she goes to, this Alden 44 is looking for a new home. If you are looking for a comfortable cocktail cruiser, or a robust blue water vessel, make sure you come see "Vi" while she is still on the market.
Some of the most widely-known Alden models now listed include: 44, 309, 46, Aft Cockpit K/CB Sloop and Cutsom 47 Center Cockpit Ketch. Alden models are available through yacht brokers, dealers, and brokerages on YachtWorld. The listings encompass a range of years, starting from 1926 models up to 1994. Find Alden boats for sale in your area ...
The oldest boat was built in 1980 and the newest model is 1980. The starting price is $129,000, the most expensive is $129,000, and the average price of $129,000. Find 28 Alden 44 boats for sale near you, including boat prices, photos, and more. Locate Alden boat dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader!
The Alden 44 was designed in 1977 and has been turning heads ever since. This capable offshore racer-cruiser has made countless passages and won its fair share of hardware on the race course in its day. The classy Alden design and high-quality construction methods have made the 44 an enduring boat on the used-boat market.
The Alden 44 sailboat, designed by American Nils Helleberg of Alden Associates, is a cutter-rigged vessel first built in 1976. Constructed by Alden Yachts in the United States, the production of this fiberglass sailboat continued until 1991, with a total of 40 units built.
Alden 44 is a 44′ 1″ / 13.5 m monohull sailboat designed by Niels Helleberg and built by Alden Yachts between 1976 and 1991. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the boat in pounds. LWL ...
Description. "The Alden 44 was designed in 1977 and has been turning heads ever since. This capable offshore racer-cruiser has made countless passages and won its fair share of hardware on the race course in its day. The classy Alden design and high-quality construction methods have made the 44 an enduring boat on the used-boat market."
Alden 44. Deltaville, Virginia. 1979. $129,000. OWNER WANTS SOLD, BRING OFFERS! The Alden 44 is an American sailboat that was designed by Alden Associates and Neils Helleberg as an International Offshore Rule racer. It has a raked stem, a raised counter reverse transom, a skeg-mounted rudder controlled by a wheel, aluminum spars and a fixed ...
44.2'. 12.5'. 4.11'. Florida. $169,000. Description: "The 44 was different from the old schooners, with its cutter rig, keel/centerboard and skeg-hung rudder. Yet it was perfectly in the Alden tradition of racing/cruising yachts. The boat could handle a crew of seven enough for a Bermuda Race and its competitive qualities were soon apparent.
The Alden 44 is an American sailboat that was designed by Alden Associates and Neils Helleberg as an International Offshore Rule racer. It has a raked stem, a raised counter reverse transom, a skeg-mounted rudder controlled by a wheel, aluminum spars and a fixed stub fin keel, with a retractable centerboard. ...
Alden 44. Steve Knauth. Aug 4, 2014. Illustration by Jim Ewing. John G. Alden stands as one of America's great yacht designers and yachtsmen, with a long list of successful boats and racing accomplishments, including being the first three-time Bermuda Race winner. Between 1909 and the late '50s, the New Englander produced a host of craft ...
Alden 44 Specs Builder: Alden Yachts Model: 44 Hull ID: XXXX Designer: Niels Helleberg Year: 1991 Registry: Gulfport, Mississippi Dimensions LOA: 44 ft 2 in Beam: 12 ft 5 in LWL: 34 ft 1 8n Maximum Draft: 4 ft 11 in / 8 ft 8 in Dry Weight: 24,500 lbs Ballast: 10,000 lbs Tanks Fresh Water Tanks 160gl (2 x 80gl) Fuel Tank - 130gl Holding Tank ...
When we were working through the forum's move to Sailboat Owners I cobbled together a list of the various versions. I hadn't realised how many length overall variations there were within the individual design numbers 1180, 1193 and 1215... How was that achieved I wonder... 1036 ~ Alden 44 ~ 1977-1991 ~ 38 built.
In mid 2022, The Alden 44 was donated to the nonprofit SailBeyondCancer.org. With the collaboration and teamwork of Coastal Yacht Management and a local towing company, the vessel was towed to a local marina and put on the hard. ... This is a project boat. The Alden 44 is presented "as is". and is a great opportunity for someone who can see ...
The Alden 44 is an American sailboat that was designed by Alden Associates and Neils Helleberg as an International Offshore Rule racer. It has a raked stem, a raised counter reverse transom, a skeg-mounted rudder controlled by a wheel, aluminum spars and a fixed stub fin keel, with a retractable centerboard. ...
Boat Details. Description. Alden 44 Mk 1 with Non-skid decks, Furling Main and head sails. Ease of handling is further enhanced with power primary winches. Standard MK 1 layout with aft stateroom port and starboard berths. Recent upgrades include solar panels, standing and running rigging. Current owners have just completed a cruise to the ...
1990. 44'. 12.6'. 4.11'. New York. $275,000. Description: American Beauty is a marvelous example of this classic Alden design. She has been lovingly maintained with an open checkbook, and it shows: she sparkles!
Niels Helleberg. Builders: Alden Yachts (USA) Related Sailboats: ALDEN 44. Download Boat Record: Notes. For this later version of the ALDEN 44, the rudder/skeg was significantly modified with an 'out of aperture' propeller and shaft re-positioned forward. Changes were also made to the interior layout.
Find more information and images about the boat and contact the seller or search more boats for sale on YachtWorld. ... 1991 Alden 44 | 44ft. Annapolis, Maryland. US$185,000 . 213 hours. Own this boat for $1,406/month. Customize. Ashley Yachts - Charleston. 3 Lockwood Drive, Charleston, 29401, United States.
M. mattypatty Discussion starter. 12 posts · Joined 2006. #1 · Oct 15, 2006. As part of my boat research process, I have taken a casual glance at the old Alden 44 Mk I's from around 1980 and aside from a Jack Horner review and Ferenc Mate's books, I can find little else about them on the internet. Is there anyone out there who owns one ...