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Com-Pac 16 - a good sail?
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- Start date Apr 24, 2013
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I was attracted to a very sweet little Compac 16 on the internet that sold before I got there. I've been actively searching for a small trailer able boat and like the looks of these little boats but - how do they sail? Are they Fun? Fast? Stable? Safe? Asking all Compac 16 owner to chime in. Thanks, Mike
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Although I'm not a Compac 16 owner, I'll chime in anyhow. Before I got my little gem of a boat I was considering a Compac 16 as an option and I liked it. I have been around a few but never sailing on one. One thing I like to do is read about adventures in small sailboats. I read a few of people on Compac 16's, here are the links if your interested. A lot of times they will give hints of how the boat handles and sails in their journals. http://www.adventurevista.com/Cruising-Florida-2010.php http://www.valsimon.com/SailingtotheBahamas.htm
I just took my 1978 Com-Pac 16 out for the first time yesterday. She was quick, stable and fun. I had three adults and two kids on board with light winds and we were doing 6 mph. When we caught the wind gusts she listed over, but we were never close to flipping. I will probably have to order one of those owners manuals I keep hearing about, but a couple of morons who never sailed more than a Sunfish figured it out and had a blast.
I have just bought one, haven't taken it out yet still trying to gather a few things to get it ready to go out.
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Tuesday, April 19, 2011
Com-pac 16 and 16-2.
COM-PAC 16 Detailed Review
If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of COM-PAC 16. Built by Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co. and designed by Clark Mills, the boat was first built in 1972. It has a hull type of Fin w/transom hung rudder and LOA is 4.88. Its sail area/displacement ratio 17.30. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by undefined, runs on undefined.
COM-PAC 16 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about COM-PAC 16 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.
Boat Information
Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, contributions, who designed the com-pac 16.
COM-PAC 16 was designed by Clark Mills.
Who builds COM-PAC 16?
COM-PAC 16 is built by Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co..
When was COM-PAC 16 first built?
COM-PAC 16 was first built in 1972.
How long is COM-PAC 16?
COM-PAC 16 is 4.27 m in length.
What is mast height on COM-PAC 16?
COM-PAC 16 has a mast height of 4.95 m.
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Com pac 16 mk 2
The com pac 16 mk 2 is a 16.92ft fractional sloop designed by clark mills and built in fiberglass by com-pac yachts/ hutchins co. since 1975..
The Com pac 16 mk 2 is a light sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
Com pac 16 mk 2 for sale elsewhere on the web:
Main features
| Model | Com pac 16 mk 2 | ||
| Length | 16.92 ft | ||
| Beam | 6 ft | ||
| Draft | 1.50 ft | ||
| Country | United states (North America) | ||
| Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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| Sail area / displ. | 15.04 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 40.91 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 178.96 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 10.50 | ||
| Capsize | 2.33 |
| Hull type | Monohull keel with centerboard | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 14 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 3.33 ft | ||
| Displacement | 1100 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 450 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 5.01 knots |
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| Rigging | Fractional Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 100 sq.ft | ||
| Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
| Sail area fore | 39.19 sq.ft | ||
| Sail area main | 60.94 sq.ft | ||
| I | 14.25 ft | ||
| J | 5.50 ft | ||
| P | 16.25 ft | ||
| E | 7.50 ft |
| Nb engines | 1 | ||
| Total power | 0 HP | ||
| Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
Accommodations
| Water capacity | 0 gals | ||
| Headroom | 0 ft | ||
| Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
| Nb of berths | 0 | ||
| Nb heads | 0 |
Builder data
| Builder | Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co. | ||
| Designer | Clark Mills | ||
| First built | 1975 | ||
| Last built | 0 | ?? | |
| Number built | 0 | ?? |
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1984 Com-pac 16
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Seller's Description
ComPac 16 sailboat for sale Nice clean package - Beautiful blue hull - Cabin sleeps 2 - Cockpit is 6 1/2 feet long - Roller furling jib - CDI flexible furler and jib cover are 1 year old - Tanbark main sail and sail cover - Bottom recently painted Title for boat and registration for trailer Also available is a 2.5 hp Suzuki 4 stroke outboard. Carburetor needs to be cleaned.
The Com Pac 16 is a popular sailboat produced by Hutchins Yachts. It was first built in 1974 and there were over 2,800 produced.
It is a small pocket cruiser sailboat. Com-pac 16s are 16 feet long with a beam of 6 feet. They have a shoal draft keel and draw 18 inches. They are generally thought of as being very seaworthy vessels. A Com-pac 16 displaces approximately 1100 pounds (499 kg) with 450 pounds (204 kg) of that as ballast in the keel. A relatively high ratio of keel weight to boat weight make the Com-pac resistant to heeling or overturning. The Com-pacs stability lends to its popularity. Although it has been out of production for approximately 10 years, there is an active online community for the Com-pac 16 (as well as other Com-pac models). Com-pac owners routinely share ideas, boat modifications, and experiences.
The Com-pac Yacht Owners Association website has over 600 active members.
Rig and Sails
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
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Review of Com-Pac 16
Basic specs..
The Com-Pac 16 is equipped with a fin keel. A boat with a fin keel is more manoeuvrable but has less directional stability than a similar boat with a long keel.
The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.46 - 0.56 meter (1.51 - 1.81 ft) dependent on the load.
The boat is typically equipped with an engine.
Sailing characteristics
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Sailing statistics
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Maintenance
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If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.
| Usage | Length | Diameter | ||
| Mainsail halyard | 13.7 m | (44.9 feet) | 6 mm | (1/4 inch) |
| Jib/genoa halyard | 13.7 m | (44.9 feet) | 6 mm | (1/4 inch) |
| Spinnaker halyard | 13.7 m | (44.9 feet) | 6 mm | (1/4 inch) |
| Jib sheet | 5.2 m | (16.9 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Genoa sheet | 5.2 m | (16.9 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Mainsheet | 12.9 m | (42.3 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Spinnaker sheet | 11.4 m | (37.2 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Cunningham | 2.4 m | (8.0 feet) | 6 mm | (1/4 inch) |
| Kickingstrap | 4.9 m | (16.0 feet) | 6 mm | (1/4 inch) |
| Clew-outhaul | 4.9 m | (16.0 feet) | 6 mm | (1/4 inch) |
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A Ballast/Displacement ratio of 40 or more translates into a stiffer, more powerful boat that will be better able to stand up to the wind. Bal./Disp = ballast (lbs)/ displacement (lbs)*100 Disp./Len.: The lower a boat's Displacement/Length (LWL) ratio, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed. less than 100 ...
The Com-Pac 16 is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by Clark Mills as a small cruiser and first built in 1972. [1] [2] [3] The design was superseded in production by the Com-Pac Legacy in 2006.
Com-Pac 16 is a 16′ 0″ / 4.9 m monohull sailboat designed by Clark Mills and built by Com-Pac Yachts starting in 1972. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the boat in pounds. LWL: Waterline ...
ODay 12.5 Lake Hopatcong. Apr 29, 2013. #3. I just took my 1978 Com-Pac 16 out for the first time yesterday. She was quick, stable and fun. I had three adults and two kids on board with light winds and we were doing 6 mph. When we caught the wind gusts she listed over, but we were never close to flipping.
The Com-Pac 16 Specifications and Data Sheet. (This reference sheet last updated on August 01, 2003.) These specifications are for all original Com-Pac 16 models, starting in 1974 with hull #1 and continuing to until 1984 with hull #2201. The original Com-Pac 16 does not have a bowsprit, which is probably the most reliable way to differentiate ...
Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co. www.com-pacyachts.com. Part of the Hutchins Company, a family owned-and-operated corporation founded in 1957 by W.L. Hutchins Sr. They began building sailboats in 1970 and continue to this day. Years in Business: 1970 - present.
The Com-Pac 16 and 16-2 specifications: LOA 16'0" (CP) and 16'11" (CP2) LWL 14'0" Beam 6'0" Draft 18" (Fixed Shoal Keel) Displ 1,100 lbs Ballast 450 lbs Sail Area 115 sq ft (Main and Jib) 155% Genoa 60 sq ft. The difference of the two was the additional 11" bow sprit which placed the forward stay before the bow which changed the handling ...
1 of 1. If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of COM-PAC 16. Built by Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co. and designed by Clark Mills, the boat was first built in 1972. It has a hull type of Fin w/transom hung rudder and LOA is 4.88.
The Com pac 16 mk 2 is a 16.92ft fractional sloop designed by Clark Mills and built in fiberglass by Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co. since 1975. The Com pac 16 mk 2 is a light sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized.
Com-Pac 16 MK 2 is a 16′ 11″ / 5.2 m monohull sailboat designed by Clark Mills and built by Com-Pac Yachts starting in 1975. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the boat in pounds. LWL ...
The Com Pac 16 is a popular sailboat produced by Hutchins Yachts. It was first built in 1974 and there were over 2,800 produced. It is a small pocket cruiser sailboat. Com-pac 16s are 16 feet long with a beam of 6 feet. They have a shoal draft keel and draw 18 inches. They are generally thought of as being very seaworthy vessels.
Keel. The Com-Pac 16 is equipped with a fin keel. The fin keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel. The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.46 - 0.56 meter (1.51 - 1.81 ft) dependent on the load.
They are right up there with a Cape Dory Typhoon in my opinion. I almost bought a Compac 16 a few years ago but felt negative vibes from the wife about buying any new (at least to me) boat so I didn't. A year later I figured better to ask for forgiveness than permission and bought a Helson 22.
1195 Kapp Dr., Clearwater, Florida 33765 USA. Call Us: 727-443-4408. E-mail Us: [email protected]. The Com-Pac line of sailboats covers a wide range of sizes from a 14-foot day sailer to a 35-foot bluewater sailing cruiser. Each sailboat, regardless of size, is built with the same exacting attention to detail and that same commitment to value.
In our area, within our budget, we have found a Com-pac 16 and a Newport 17. (Also a Siren 17 and a Vagabond 17 that we are still somewhat considering) Com-pac 16. Pros: lots of information online for repairs. low capsize rating (compared to the others anyway) of 2.33. Draft = 1.5 ft.
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Find more information and images about the boat and contact the seller or search more boats for sale on YachtWorld. ... 1977 Com-Pac 16. US$6,900. Washington, North Carolina. Close. View 14 Photos. Engine. LEHR. Total Power. 3hp. Engine Hours-Class. Sail Sloop. Length. 16ft. Year. 1977. Model. 16. Capacity-
619 members. Welcome to our Compac 16 sailboat owners group. The Com-Pac 16 is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by Clark Mills as a small cruiser and first built in 1972! Production. The design was built by Com-Pac Yachts in the United States, starting in 1972. Over 2,800 boats were completed, but it is now out of production.
1991 Com-Pac 16 1991 Com-Pac 16 sailboat with a 1994 Johnson 3HP outboard and a 1992 custom galvanized trailer. Package includes bimini top with boot, main sail and jib sail are in good condition. Anti-fouling bottom paint, Mainsail cover, tiller cover, VHF, swim ladder, adjustable motor mount, and more. Super simple to rig, launch and sail!
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