1977 irwin 33 sailboat

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1974 Irwin 33

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Can anyone give me any info on how much one of these boats is worth? Fair condition.. needs new sheets and some work done... rough ideas are welcome  

Well NADA suggest list of $24k, with a average retail of $10k and low retail of $9k. https://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/1974/Irwin-Yacht/IRWIN-33-SL/10093864/values New sheets, maybe $50.00. Engine, standing rigging, sails, deck saturation, wiring, rudder condition, drive train, and on and on. Blisters? Value is hard to say even from pictures. My suggestion, look at a ton of boats before buying one. Boats are like wives, hard to get, expensive to keep and you are going to lose a lot of money when you rid of them.  

I have a feeling he meant sails, as sheets would be an inconsequential expense when buying a boat, as you pointed out.  

I have been researching boat prices for nearly 5 years. I have read ads on various web sites and at various brokers pages. I have called after the sale to find out what boats actually sold for, compared to the original asking price. One thing I have learned is that there is really no way to judge the sale value of used boats like there is with cars. Prices seem to vary drastically depending on things like region of the country, condition of several different systems on the boat, and even whether they were used on inland lakes or saltwater. Prices are influenced by the reputation and pedigree of the boat model, designer and builder. Prices can be influenced by a large variety of available navigation and communication equipment, and refrigeration and autopilot add-ons. I've noticed that a boat that has a reputation as a good racer, but as being less comfortable as a cruiser, may go for less in the Bahamas than a comparable boat in the Great Lakes. Conversely, I've noticed that a boat that has a strong pedigree as a blue water cruiser may sit for some time unsold on the Great Lakes but a comprable model located in a coastal area in the South may sell rather quickly at a higher price. I watched the ad for one boat for a while that proudly advertised that it was equipped with a loran navigation system. Loran systems have not been supported with shore stations for about 15 years or more.  

Thank you all. I looked everywhere for the NADA so thanks for the link. I've been helping an 89 year old man take care of this boat and he wants to give it to me. I refused it for free and wanted to make him a reasonable offer. Its still solid, no blisters, it could use a new main sail within the next year though. I did mean new sheets, I just didn't know they were so inexpensive as everything else I've bought for it seems quite expensive.. He has told me more than once; "This is a rich man's hobby you know." HAHA. No salt water except two trips from Vermont to Maryland through the canal. As you can probably tell I've only really dabbled in sailing but I've taken a course and have been sailing with friends on many occasions. It needs some TLC for sure, but I'm really looking forward to calling it my own and working on restoring the things he has had to neglect due to his and his wife's health. I appreciate the quick responses.  

Irwin made several different 33 footers with a number of different configurations. In really good condition the boat is worth around $12,000-13,000, but that boat needs a new mainsail. A new mainsail will cost between approximately $1,100 and $2500 depending on the quality. If the mainsail is in rough shape then you probably need a new jib before long which is another $2,500 to $3,0000. Jib sheets for that boat would probably be 66 feet of 7/16" dacron double braid at roughly $1.35 per foot. The mainsheet would probably be around 70-80 feet of the same. And if the sheets are in bad shape, then you are probably pretty close to needing halyards. That makes the value of that boat closer to the $5,000 to $6,000 range and you will need to be prepared to spend double that ob maintenance if you own and sail that boat for more than a few years. Lastly I strongly suggest that you get the boat professionally surveyed so that you know whether there are any 'fatal flaws' such as keel bolts, which on the fixed keel model could easily be at the end of their 'use by date' especially since this is a fresh water boat and so would often more prone to crevice corrosion than a sail water boat. Jeff  

In Florida NADA values are worthless for older sailboats 35 feet and under in average shape - there are just too many for sale - some quote NADA values in their ads - and the boat never sells - they are only worth what someone else is willing to pay - which right now is not much - I would guess if your boat was in Florida and had a working diesel engine - it would sell between $5K to $8K - but is might sit for a while - Irwin is generally not a make that people go out of their way to look for -  

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1977 Irwin 37 CC

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Disclaimer The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change, or withdrawal without notice.

Standard features

LOA: 37 ft LWL: 30 ft Beam: 11 ft 6 in Draft: 4 ft Cabin Headroom: 6 ft 1 in Dry Weight: 20000 lb Ballast: 6700 lb Displacement: 22000 lb

Fuel Tanks #: 1 Fuel Tanks Capacity: 85 gal Fuel Tanks Material: Aluminum

Fresh Water Tanks #: 2 Fresh Water Tanks Capacity: 200 gal Fresh Water Tanks Material: Aluminum

Holding Tanks #: 2 Holding Tank Capacity: 25 gal

Number of twin berths: 2 Number of Cabins: 2 Number of Heads: 2

Engine Make: Perkins Engine Model: 4-108 Primary Engines: Inboard Drive Type: Direct Drive Engine Year: 1977 Hours: unknown Power: 50 hp

Electronics • Depthsounder - Hummingbird • Radar • Log-Speedometer - SR Mariner • Wind Speed and Direction - SR Mariner • TV Set • DVD Player • Autopilot - Autohelm 3000 • Compass - 3 • VHF - Standard Horizon • Fully Battened Mainsail • Furling Genoa • Steering Wheel • Electric Bilge Pump • Oven - w/ 3 burner gas stove • Manual Bilge Pump • Microwave Oven - brand new 2019 • Hot Water • Refrigerator • Shore Power Inlet • Swimming Ladder • Bimini Top • Spray Hood • Mainsail Cover • Cockpit Cover

Additional: -5 opening deck hatches -13 opening screened windows -aft curtain enclosure -boarding ladder -ice chest -wooden cutting board -one oval sink -reefing mainsail -whisker pole -custom winter cover -cradle

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

The IRWIN 37 was promoted as a no compromise cruising boat. Introduced in 1971 it was one of this builders most successful models though undergoing numerous changes until production ended in 1982. It’s been said that nearly nearly 600 were sold. Available as sloop, cutter or ketch. KEEL OPTIONS: Shoal draft fixed keel: 4.92’ Keel/cb version: (draft: 4.0’ board up) Also available with a 50 HP Perkins 4-108 **************************************************** IRWIN 37-2 (1976 - bowsprit added which continued for all remaining models.) IRWIN 37-3 IRWIN 37-4 (1977) IRWIN 37-5 (1982 last model year).

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1974 Irwin 33 Ft Mk Ii Sailboat - Sloop Masted Aft Cockpit Cruiser. Live Aboard!

• Make: Irwin
• Model: Mk Ii
• Condition: Used

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I bought this Sailboat in Florida in 2012 with the intention to live aboard and sail. Things changed and I ended up sailing her from Cocoa Beach Florida to Warwick Rhode Island where she was for a couple years. She was already set up pretty well when we bought her but before I sailed her up the coast I prepared her for the journey. You can see below what I added. They really do not make them like this anymore, this is a sold sailboat and can sail anywhere in the world you want to take her. I add...

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• Location: 013** , Petersham, Massachusetts

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